Lottery is a bit crap

[Rich_W]

Just a random one.

Last night was a rollover.

3 people won. I was not one of them. But the total jackpot was a shade over £3.5M Hence the winners getting £1.2 each. I remember the first rollovers being huge. (Google says first rollover was £17M) But even the more regular ones in the last couple years were in the £8-10M region. Don't get me wrong. £1M is a nice amount. Pay off your mortgage put the rest away for rainy days/additional income. Wouldn't turn it down of course. How long till a Lotto jackpot is less than £1M?

Personally I can see a time when the normal Lotto is binned for good. Let alone the other games they run. (Thunderball and HotPicks) and only Euromillions and scratchcards are left.

With the Euros offering comically large wins for the same price ticket. Can Camelot ever reverse this slide?

(No I don't work for them. This is not market research )

[Rich_W]

Jimmy No Hands said:

They might cost the same price, but the odds on winning the National Lottery is about 1 in 14 million versus the 1 in 116 million for the Euros.


Apparently.



Edit: I live up north, I could retire off of £1m

You're right on the odds. But people will always gravitate towards the larger amount. Do they need to reduce the charity chunk of the ticket to get the jackpots much higher? Or is the money simply not there?

[Rich_W]

Tonight is a rollover.

Website says "Estimated £6.9M"

I'm going to guess at less than £4m

[Rich_W]

mybrainhurts said:

hidetheelephants said:

Presumably Beardy is going to pop up again and promise to do a better job than Camelot and take no profit at the same time? When does the franchise expire?

If Beardy gets his hands on it, the big prizes will go and lots of £1 million prizes will be on offer.

Beardy doesn't like other people having lots of ££££££.

And he'd sink it, too. Last time, he demonstrated quite clearly he has no grasp of numbers.

I dunno if I'm alone in this. He's starting to grate a lot on me. Loves to do "start ups" then sell off. Or buys companies then cuts all the costs/quality out of them. But still has this "saint Richard" vibe going on.

When I get a chance I plan to read this.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Branson-Behind-Mask-Tom-Bo...

Seems there's more to this and even him being a Billionaire is questioned!

ash73 said:

MikeOxlong said:

Your joke about a tax on the stupid is right now I think about it really, because only stupid people waste their money.

But the question is does the government have a responsibility to protect people from themselves? I think it does, personally.

You sound like a typical socialist. It's bad for others to have money. But I bet my £2 that if they offered you £10m you'd have it in a heartbeat. oh the hypocracy of lefties

"Tax on the stupid" just sounds like a cliché by those who like to think they are morally superior

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 18th May 16:10

[Rich_W]

Thought of this thread now that the Lottery has changed to 59 balls instead of 49.

Personally, I've stopped playing (and I played ever since 1994!) And just put the money into extra EuroMillions lines.

Noticed 3 things from Camelots site though.

1) That it hasn't come close to being won since the change. If it rolls and rolls up to the maximum, will people become disheartened that it's become "unwinnable" (Euros despite longer odds, tends to get won every 5-10 rollovers. I suspect more players per draw helps that.)
2) 5+1 was £50k to each of the 2 winners. Sure it used to be higher on 49 balls.
3) The Euro's also rolled over and they've estimated jackpot at £15M when it will almost certainly be nearer £20m. Feel that's a abit of spin to make normal Lottery look more enticing!

[Rich_W]

And now we have the biggest EVER Lotto jackpot. Since with the new 1 in 45 million odds brought about by the introduction of 59 balls. It's seemingly unwinnable.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/britains-bigg...

[Rich_W]

Yes. £40M is a lot of money and if you are sensible you'll struggle to spend it all.

But I think I'd rather have it than not

[Rich_W]

p1stonhead said:

Not sure if he was a Ph'er but he was a proper car nut so possibly! Don't think he has ever popped up since though?

He bought this gaff down in Kent ( sorry for DM link ) allegedly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894893/Th...

He raced a 3 series at amateur level and said he wanted to keep racing so presumably he's in something a bit tastier now. Top bloke though. Repaired rusty cills on my MX5 about a week before he won!

Stables?

or Garage full of cool stuff?

Up to him of course. But unless you do a lot of entertaining. Do you need a house that big when there's seemingly just 2 of them?

[Rich_W]

Camelot have to be careful here.

If the ticket is beyond proving either way, but a CCTV shows her buying it and their system shows it was the winning ticket.

THEN IMO

They should NOT pay out. Rules are simple! Ticket is your proof. Nothing else!


Or they will be getting all manner of scammers trying it on for the smaller £25-£10000 prizes.

[Rich_W]

Hmmm.

[S1KRR]

"Set for Life"

Win £10K a month for 30 years (Or £3.6M if you had it in a lump - which I don't think you can)


Only so far, not one of the 6 draws has manage to give away the top prize. Which will inevitably start to hurt ticket sales in due course if people think it's unwinnable.

Also for reasons I cant understand it doesn't rollover. Which currently would be 60K a month for 30 years. That sort of money would make a significant impact to sales imo.

Anybody won anything with this game?

[S1KRR]

TTmonkey said:

PurpleTurtle said:

I’ve been mulling over the whole ‘why go public?’ question for a few weeks now, considering a few big Euromillions winners in the UK have recently done so.

Having followed the excellent Untold podcast about the murder of Daniel Morgan (from a link on another PH thread, the whole story really worthy of its own thread) I conclude that its pretty much all to do with the dark arts at play in the tabloid press. I’m fairly sure Camelot’s people have a very short conversation with you along these lines:

“The tabloids have paid moles inside every bank, the DVLA and HMRC. It is impossible to keep your identity secret due to your new found wealth. Here’s loads of evidence of them doing that. Go public and break the news on your terms, let them have their pound of flesh, or they will do it on their terms regardless”

There can be no other reason.

There are far more big winners that we have no clue about. It isn’t out there. There are plenty of rich people in the uk to blend in with. 50 million barely makes you stand out in some areas.

Bit so many winners that do go public seem to be from the low end of society, perhaps it’s just them that go public.

I agree. Going public will appeal to a certain type of ego more than some fear of tabloid expose. I accept the tabs print a load of bks'. But "Reclusive Euromillionaire buys Ferrari and lives in 8 bedroom house worth £5M" isn't worth the hassle of being sued by said millionaire for invasion of privacy.


The last guy was recently divorced. That struck me as a "fk you" to his exes. Biggest local winner to myself was a local business man before, so well known in the area.

Look at some of the more exclusive estates in the UK. Do you know who lives there? Their net worths? These people aren't being splashed all over the tabloids.

[S1KRR]

So the "Set for Life" top prize (10K a month for 30 years) was finally won.


Seems that Camelot realised it was a bit marginal in terms of odds. So did a marketing gimmick called a "Super Chance" draw. So the 2 people that got matched 5 (but no bonus ball) won the top prize.


I can now bow out from playing


In other news Euromillions Superdraw of £105M on the 7th June

[S1KRR]

Was wondering about the hit on the Lottery given people aren't shopping quite as much. Obviously you CAN play online*, but there's been a pretty large drop off in sales of late.

*Website does say no new Direct Debits can be set up at the moment.


Euromillions Last 3 draw jackpots

£27.3M...…..31st March
£22.0M...…..27th March
£15.6M...…..24th March


Go back a few weeks

£35.5M...…..10th March
£26.4M...…..6th March
£14.8M...…...3rd March



Lotto not quite so affected it seems, so it appears to be affecting the other European nations more than here.

(Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Luxembourg)

£8.0M...…..1st April
£6.7M...…..28th March
£4.9M...…..25th March


Against

£9.0M...…...4th March
£7.6M...….. 29th Feb
£5.4M...….. 26th Feb

[S1KRR]

cuprabob said:

Apologies, my mistake.

I'm sure I heard it on the radio and the local shops around here have covers over the lottery machines with signs stating they have stoppedvselling them. Possibly it's just policy in certain shops.

Was rumoured that Co-Op have stopped since they decided that the rules on "essential" shops open only meant they ought to be selling "essential products" (I guess cake and alcohol are more essential than Lotto tickets to them). But they're a bunch of virtue signalling hypocrite bell ends to start with so fk em

Someone on here linked it the other day. Can't find post as it's lost somewhere in the "Coronovirus Megathreads"

Edited by S1KRR on Friday 3rd April 12:27