What price to embarrass yourself?
Discussion
My days as a senior manager are long gone and now I watch on with surprise in my more mundane role at some of the outrageous things my young colleagues get up to.
The lads in our office have been challenging each other to ever-more bizarre and outrageous stunts in the last couple of months and we've had some daft, dangerous and disgusting "bets" proposed and, as yet, always carried out.
The latest defies belief really - one lad has been challenged to wet himself, in his suit, during next month's regional sales meeting. The offer so far is up to £500. He reckons if it gets to £750, he'll do it!!
Would you be tempted? At that, or any other price?
The lads in our office have been challenging each other to ever-more bizarre and outrageous stunts in the last couple of months and we've had some daft, dangerous and disgusting "bets" proposed and, as yet, always carried out.
The latest defies belief really - one lad has been challenged to wet himself, in his suit, during next month's regional sales meeting. The offer so far is up to £500. He reckons if it gets to £750, he'll do it!!
Would you be tempted? At that, or any other price?
TheExcession said:
You are Nev Wilshire AICMFP
Me? I'll do practically anything for a bit of money, unfortunately both Grandmothers are long gone now, so no sale there. Some of the stuff Young Mr Gryls presents leaves me questioning just what I'd do.
As for wetting myself during a presentation, and if there were no customers present, I wouldn't do it on purpose, accidents do happen though.
Seriously though Tim, which arena are you working in where the competition is so high that people feel they need to piss themselves in order to top-up their salary?
I wish had a tenth of Nev Wilshire's money! But yes, I see where you are coming from.Me? I'll do practically anything for a bit of money, unfortunately both Grandmothers are long gone now, so no sale there. Some of the stuff Young Mr Gryls presents leaves me questioning just what I'd do.
As for wetting myself during a presentation, and if there were no customers present, I wouldn't do it on purpose, accidents do happen though.
Seriously though Tim, which arena are you working in where the competition is so high that people feel they need to piss themselves in order to top-up their salary?
Our organisation (and I'm just a minnow on the outside of things) sells vending machine contracts, leases and all associated supplies. The lads concerned are the many sales reps.
The bet came about because apparently - and I wouldn't know as I don't go to such events - the Regional Sales Director has a real passion about no distractions during the meetings, ie no mobile phones ringing, no-one leaving the room, etc. somebody said, "I'd go out if I needed a pee"' hence the response of ""I bet you wouldn't ..." You can guess the rest.
The young bloke concerned is a bit of a 'chancer' - you'll know the type and I honestly wouldn't put it past him to actually do it.
I honestly don't think the money is that important in all of this, although obviously he'll hold out for the best possible sum and I wouldn't be surprised if it went higher. It's just all about meeting the challenge for these guys but I've not known anything quite as extreme as this one. The problem, I guess, is the longer-term consequences if it all goes a bit wrong.
Anyway, as I said he's a confident sort with a fair bit of bravado about him and a bit more egging on might just push him there. Whether he'd have the balls to go through with it when the time came remains to be seen.
The meeting is in about 10 days time.
Anyway, as I said he's a confident sort with a fair bit of bravado about him and a bit more egging on might just push him there. Whether he'd have the balls to go through with it when the time came remains to be seen.
The meeting is in about 10 days time.
Wow! Some real venom directed at sales reps - not entirely all without justification, in fairness.
I should say that although I work with them I'm not one of 'them'. My working days now consist of a small part-time role to keep me occupied, as accounts support, but I do watch their antics from close by.
Yes, there is bags of egotism but then the group are almost exclusively male and pretty much under-30, probably more under 24, to be honest.
Confident, flash, boisterous - yes
Suave - no
Arrogant - not sure, some of them, I suppose
I've seen several outrageous stunts pulled in the last year or so, all in the name of bravado and all involving money. The reason I mentioned this one is the sheer ludicrously of it, although you wouldn't think so if you saw the supposed planning.
Anyway, the bet's well and truly on for Wednesday and the rules have been drawn up. He's going to down as much water as possible during the morning, and then 'break the seal' shortly before the meeting.
- he has to wear a suit (not surprising, they all do!)
- he has to pee during the meeting itself
- no smirking or grinning when he does it
- there has to be enough to leave a significant amount as a puddle on the floor
- it has to show down at least one leg of his trousers
- the "signal" will be him asking how long before a break
He won't be allowed to tell anyone other then the colleagues in his team. He will be allowed to email the other offices on Friday to reveal that it was all in the name of proving his worth (not my terminology)
So, all set. Remarkably he seems well and truly up for it. Someone's giving him a lift home afterwards so he can sort himself out - £800 richer.
Personally, I think he'll fail - I don't think he'll be able to let it go sitting in a formal environment, but we shall see, I suppose?
I should say that although I work with them I'm not one of 'them'. My working days now consist of a small part-time role to keep me occupied, as accounts support, but I do watch their antics from close by.
Yes, there is bags of egotism but then the group are almost exclusively male and pretty much under-30, probably more under 24, to be honest.
Confident, flash, boisterous - yes
Suave - no
Arrogant - not sure, some of them, I suppose
I've seen several outrageous stunts pulled in the last year or so, all in the name of bravado and all involving money. The reason I mentioned this one is the sheer ludicrously of it, although you wouldn't think so if you saw the supposed planning.
Anyway, the bet's well and truly on for Wednesday and the rules have been drawn up. He's going to down as much water as possible during the morning, and then 'break the seal' shortly before the meeting.
- he has to wear a suit (not surprising, they all do!)
- he has to pee during the meeting itself
- no smirking or grinning when he does it
- there has to be enough to leave a significant amount as a puddle on the floor
- it has to show down at least one leg of his trousers
- the "signal" will be him asking how long before a break
He won't be allowed to tell anyone other then the colleagues in his team. He will be allowed to email the other offices on Friday to reveal that it was all in the name of proving his worth (not my terminology)
So, all set. Remarkably he seems well and truly up for it. Someone's giving him a lift home afterwards so he can sort himself out - £800 richer.
Personally, I think he'll fail - I don't think he'll be able to let it go sitting in a formal environment, but we shall see, I suppose?
schmalex said:
I quite agree. Fouling yourself in the office is not comparable to sitting in a bath of beans for a sponsorship. Regardless, the OP has made no mention (that I could see) about the money being for charity. It's all for personal gain.
You're right, I've heard no mention of any money going to a charitable cause.Perhaps they should tell him that bit the next day!
Well, he did it! Although it didn’t quite go according to the well-laid plans.
It was all quite amusing because he came in this morning, nicely attired – dark grey suit, shirt and tie although not his ’best’ shoes. The meeting was scheduled to start at 11:00 and after filling himself with water, he was bursting to go ages before then and he had to finally go for a pee some time before the start.
Although he’s been full of bravado in the last few days, he seemed a bit tense and edgy during the morning and I thought he was having second thoughts but he was adamant he was going to go through with it.
He said he was dying to go again just before they went into the conference room and I must admit I was feeling a bit apprehensive on his behalf. The majority of the sales staff went into the meeting although a good few of us were still outside and so we had to wait to find out what had happened.
Apparently, soon after everyone had gathered, they were split up into small focus groups which no-one had been anticipating and that caused our lad a real problem, because he couldn’t do it whilst sitting in a small group and therefore very exposed. So he waited. Some of the others reckoned that when they all reconvened as a big group again, he was making faces which suggested he was seriously desperate.
It turned out that he couldn’t bring himself to interrupt proceedings to give the signal by asking when they were going to have a break, in front of everyone, and also he found that he just couldn’t ‘go’ whilst he was sitting down, no matter how bad it got. And I guess it must have got extremely bad indeed because finally he stood up and went to walk to the exit, prompting the speaker to ask where he was going.
He said he had to go to the toilet and as he got to the door he stopped for a moment, started to go in his pants and began to wet himself.
Of course, his colleagues knew what was happening although remarkably it seemed, no-one else noticed at that moment and he got outside the door, still doing it. He managed to get himself to the toilet and had peed all down his trouser leg by then, although he was in there for ages.
Here’s the amusing bit – he absolutely begged the guy who was going to take him home to get cleaned up, to take him there and then, before the main meeting ended and he was so insistent that he got his lift and disappeared home.
It seems that several others in the conference room saw the wetness on the carpet by the doors and in the corridor when the meeting ended and so rumours are abounding this evening, I’d imagine.
Guess what? Our lad called in and booked the afternoon off as annual leave!
Will he be back in tomorrow, I wonder?
And … will he get his money?
It was all quite amusing because he came in this morning, nicely attired – dark grey suit, shirt and tie although not his ’best’ shoes. The meeting was scheduled to start at 11:00 and after filling himself with water, he was bursting to go ages before then and he had to finally go for a pee some time before the start.
Although he’s been full of bravado in the last few days, he seemed a bit tense and edgy during the morning and I thought he was having second thoughts but he was adamant he was going to go through with it.
He said he was dying to go again just before they went into the conference room and I must admit I was feeling a bit apprehensive on his behalf. The majority of the sales staff went into the meeting although a good few of us were still outside and so we had to wait to find out what had happened.
Apparently, soon after everyone had gathered, they were split up into small focus groups which no-one had been anticipating and that caused our lad a real problem, because he couldn’t do it whilst sitting in a small group and therefore very exposed. So he waited. Some of the others reckoned that when they all reconvened as a big group again, he was making faces which suggested he was seriously desperate.
It turned out that he couldn’t bring himself to interrupt proceedings to give the signal by asking when they were going to have a break, in front of everyone, and also he found that he just couldn’t ‘go’ whilst he was sitting down, no matter how bad it got. And I guess it must have got extremely bad indeed because finally he stood up and went to walk to the exit, prompting the speaker to ask where he was going.
He said he had to go to the toilet and as he got to the door he stopped for a moment, started to go in his pants and began to wet himself.
Of course, his colleagues knew what was happening although remarkably it seemed, no-one else noticed at that moment and he got outside the door, still doing it. He managed to get himself to the toilet and had peed all down his trouser leg by then, although he was in there for ages.
Here’s the amusing bit – he absolutely begged the guy who was going to take him home to get cleaned up, to take him there and then, before the main meeting ended and he was so insistent that he got his lift and disappeared home.
It seems that several others in the conference room saw the wetness on the carpet by the doors and in the corridor when the meeting ended and so rumours are abounding this evening, I’d imagine.
Guess what? Our lad called in and booked the afternoon off as annual leave!
Will he be back in tomorrow, I wonder?
And … will he get his money?
That's right. All the guys in the office have decided that he didn't fulfil the terms of the bet, so no payout.
They've agreed to pay for his dry cleaning only!! Although I suspect he won't take them up on that one!
The big dilemma is whether the other offices should be told anything about what was planned, but as he hasn't been in since, no decision has been taken.
Hopefully he'll be back in on Monday.
They've agreed to pay for his dry cleaning only!! Although I suspect he won't take them up on that one!
The big dilemma is whether the other offices should be told anything about what was planned, but as he hasn't been in since, no decision has been taken.
Hopefully he'll be back in on Monday.
Now, now chaps, let's all stay friends!
I've only told things as they are. When I started working here I was very surprised at the number of silly and outrageous pranks that these guys undertook. I've no idea whether senior managers know about what goes or how they react, if they do know. But I would be stunned if they sacked someone for something like that.
The fact that he hasn't been seen for the last two days suggests that he's feeling pretty embarrassed about what happened. To be honest, he'd probably have been better off doing what he was supposed to do, rather than it turning out as it did.
I'm sure he'll be back, as brash as ever and they'll all be ready for another "challenge" although maybe some lessons have been learned.
I've also got a funny feeling he won't be completely denied at least some of the money!
I've only told things as they are. When I started working here I was very surprised at the number of silly and outrageous pranks that these guys undertook. I've no idea whether senior managers know about what goes or how they react, if they do know. But I would be stunned if they sacked someone for something like that.
The fact that he hasn't been seen for the last two days suggests that he's feeling pretty embarrassed about what happened. To be honest, he'd probably have been better off doing what he was supposed to do, rather than it turning out as it did.
I'm sure he'll be back, as brash as ever and they'll all be ready for another "challenge" although maybe some lessons have been learned.
I've also got a funny feeling he won't be completely denied at least some of the money!
Ren Esis said:
Any update to this OP?
He was back today as expected, quite chipper although seemingly still a bit embarrassed about what happened. He told a couple of them that his biggest error was not telling his girlfriend because he was going to surprise her with the cash windfall. So, when he got back early he had to work out what he was going to say.Anyway, as I thought, it now looks like he might get a part of the agreed amount.
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