"Christian Country"

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J4CKO

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Thursday 29th September 2016
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Couldnt be bothered replying but some twunt on FB replied to the usual anti Islam type share with

"If they support Islam they have no place in a Christian country !! DEPORT THE LOT OF THEM . back to wherever their ethnic origins"

Ignoring the fact that many Muslims were born her and go back a couple of generations, and this isnt a Muslim post so please ignore the sentiment as it has been done to death,

However, "Christian Country", what does that actually ? I am an atheist yet was baptised C of E, does that make me a Christian ?

I feel no more affinity to my own supposed religion than I do any other, I think the lot of it is nonsense and should die out but I support other peoples rigths to practice whatever mumbo jumbo claptrap they enjoy, as long as it doesnt bother anyone else.


So, is this a Christian Country or is it largely a melting pot of various religions and a whole load of atheists and agnostics ? why call it a Christian Country ?


J4CKO

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GetCarter said:
Well if it is Christian, only 1 in 60 are prepared to practice what they preach.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/12/chur...
Indeed, I have asked the poster I mentioned whether he is a practising Christian, I suspect it is perhaps a less unpopular synonym for "White British Country" used to make it sound less EDF-ish.


J4CKO

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2Btoo said:
Head of state who is a practising Christian
Head of state is also head of the Anglican church
Parliament prays to the Christian God before every session, as does the House of Lords
Law is based upon 10 commandments
Legal system is based upon OT principles (innocent until proven guilty, judged by a jury of 12 peers etc)

Probably quite a few others.
90 year old woman religous, or at least attends church, possibly as it is expected ?

Parliament is not a good example of praying, maybe preying, not generally a very "Christian" bunch, maybe just going through the motions int he name of tradition there, a lot of non Christian MPs about now.

10 Commandments came from the bible, basically "dont do bad stuff" and dates from a pre secular time, where religion was law

First three are telling you to be religous, meh

fourth is dont do anything on Sunday, well that one is fked isnt it ?

Dont kill, not exactly needing religion on that one

No Adultery, generally regarded as bad for, can see that

Stealing, people dont like their stuff nicked, think we could have worked that out

False Witness, no lying basically.

then several things about not coveting your neighbours stuff.




Its just the first time it all got written down !








J4CKO

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RizzoTheRat said:
I guess it's hard not to be tainted by history. The UK clearly was a christian country, but as pointed out above a pretty small proportion are now practicing christians. However we are a product of our history and a large part of "core values" or whatever term you'd use to describe the British way of life is based on christianity.

I'm an athiest but I celebrate christmas, scoff plenty of chocolate at easter, and don't covet my neighbours ass.
Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews or whatever have pretty much the same set of values, they are just human core values.


J4CKO

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I am not anti monarchy but they are really, these days just symbolic and traditional, there for the tourists, we are for all intents and purposes entirely secular in terms of government, the church and royalty are largely irrelevant to most people, even if they like them, I don't mind them and think they are good for the country, but they aren't rulers.

J4CKO

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StevieBee said:
J4CKO said:
I am not anti monarchy but they are really, these days just symbolic and traditional, there for the tourists, we are for all intents and purposes entirely secular in terms of government, the church and royalty are largely irrelevant to most people, even if they like them, I don't mind them and think they are good for the country, but they aren't rulers.
The Queen retains absolute power over the UK and indeed, the Commonwealth. She can, if she wished, overrule any act of parliament or remove any Prime Minister or MP or Lord. No-one knows how often she intervenes but it is rare. There are some who believe she intervened in the Poll Tax matter.
Hmm , would love to see it f she tried, an unelected 90 year old lady gets to call the shots, can't see it happening myself.