PADI scuba divers??
Discussion
Anyone else interested in Scuba diving.
Currently doing my rescue course then doing my divemaster by Christmas, only done 12 dives but loving every minute of it.
Going to Zenobia wreck dive on saturday.
Then hopefully travel the world for a year or two doing a divemaster before settling down with a "proper" job.
Currently doing my rescue course then doing my divemaster by Christmas, only done 12 dives but loving every minute of it.
Going to Zenobia wreck dive on saturday.
Then hopefully travel the world for a year or two doing a divemaster before settling down with a "proper" job.
Dupont666 said:
Jgtv said:
mel said:
I'm not having a dig at you personally but I simply can not comprehend how any one can seriously consider being a "rescue" diver with only 12 dives under their belt. I know it's courses and qualifications etc but seriously at 12 dives you won't have even reached the totaly at ease with yourself stage while underwater let alone being confident enough to assist others should a problem arise. I honestly think if PADI are able and willing to award these qualifications at that level then they are without a doubt dangerous, not just to the student but others around them. I would take a "rescue" qualification to indicate a confident, well trained, experienced, and self sufficient individual who if needed could be called upon to assist in a rescue situation, infact I would look to be able to actually send the rescue diver into the water to do the rescue while co ordiating from the dry side, at anything less than 100+ dives I simply would not have that confidence in any diver, at anything less than level everything is still new and interesting.
I was thinking much the same, after 12 dives I was still strugling with my kit let alone trying to sort someone else kit out in a crisis!I started diving at about 13, now almost 27, Done god knows how many dives, did my Rescue at 16, I already had well over 100 hours underwater in everything from 2 foot vis in off the south coast to the Thistlegorm in the Red Sea and the cenotes? in Mexico.
Started dive master by 18 but never actually finished all the work to get the qualification,Helped in the classes for while at a mates school, good experience but never really turned it into anything so I still enjoy it as a hobby,
Haven't been this year yet thanks to the bloody mortgage, sorting it out soon at I am going to the Maldives in October Hopefully! get in.
Good that you love it but I am a little confused at that level after 12 dives, and a Divemaster after 6 months, unless you go everyday I wouldn't have thought you would be fully up to speed would you?
But it is under the instrcutors discretion to allow me take the course, without wanting to sound cocky, i have never had a problem (albeit 12 dives) i have already assisted in one rescue (avoided other student from doing a rapid ascent from 30m), Most importantly i feel like i'm ready for it. If i fail to complete the 4 open water scenarios at the end of the course then your right i'm not ready.
I will be diving everyday until christmas... I'll be at the Dive centre 5 days a week hopefully diving 2/3 times a day once i start my divemaster.
Also i never thought there would be so many divers on PH good to hear it hope to see some of you at Turtle Bay Dive Centre TRNC one day!
mel said:
There's no delicate way of putting this but if you believe what you have just written then you're a fool.
Nothing can compensate for time underwater and at probably around 8 hours total you haven't even got properly wet.
I enjoy doing it, and if i pass all the courses then why can't progress onto divemaster... is it because you didn't feel you wheer ready at such an early stage?? Nothing can compensate for time underwater and at probably around 8 hours total you haven't even got properly wet.
I understand i need more bottom time, but that will come throughout the divemaster course until i have completed atleast 60 dives i wont be able to qulify anyway. i'll be going under proper assesment aswell, so your eally think that a PADI instructor would sign off someone that they didn't think was capable on anything let alone a Divemaster course.
So instead of criticising me why can't you just say good luck i hope it all goes well instead of been a pesimist??
Thanks, appreciate it.
Just had a s
t day, so things like that are needed! lol
I do enjoy just diving although i have only actually done 3 non course dives.
its no the fact of doing the courses but the way i see it is if i pass the course with ease (which i have done so far) then i might aswell keep trying to progress until it becomes a struggle then i just have to try harder. A challenge is always more enjoyable than an easy ride IMO.
Just had a s
t day, so things like that are needed! lolI do enjoy just diving although i have only actually done 3 non course dives.
its no the fact of doing the courses but the way i see it is if i pass the course with ease (which i have done so far) then i might aswell keep trying to progress until it becomes a struggle then i just have to try harder. A challenge is always more enjoyable than an easy ride IMO.
IanMorewood said:
mel said:
I'm not having a dig at you personally but I simply can not comprehend how any one can seriously consider being a "rescue" diver with only 12 dives under their belt.
A lad on my Cyprus dive trip had 8 open water dives under his belt and was already qualified as a rescue diver, apparently his local education authoirty gave grants to young people undertaking formal qualifications so he did Open Water, Advanced OW, First Aider, Rescue Diver and was planning on doing his Divemaster in the space of one summer funded largely through the tax payer, think long term his plan was to become a divebum.I want to do my Divemaster over the space of about 5-6momnths and rack up about 100 dives before signing off.
a friend of mine is doing his DM and i think people are a little quick to judge about divetime, yes it is a factor but to pass a DM course there is alot involved and its not easy lots of time and effort are required to be able to do it properly.
I think all divers should be encouraged to do the rescue course as i gives you more of an insight into why you should do something, Decompression sickness. At the end of the day an unexperienced rescue diver will be more help than an unexperienced diver.
Yes i will.
I have CBOS and MIST courses to go offshore which last for four years, but only just turning 18 i think i would like to travel the world diving before thinking about settling down for a proper job, may even go for my instructors qualification eventually. Will have to see how it goes.
I'm not doig my DM just to get a job, i am doing because i enjoy diving and i will enjoy helping/teaching/assisting people that are also into diving.
I have CBOS and MIST courses to go offshore which last for four years, but only just turning 18 i think i would like to travel the world diving before thinking about settling down for a proper job, may even go for my instructors qualification eventually. Will have to see how it goes.
I'm not doig my DM just to get a job, i am doing because i enjoy diving and i will enjoy helping/teaching/assisting people that are also into diving.
First off- Sorry i was snappy earlier, had a fairly st day.
secondly i do appreciate all the advice, I want to become a DM asap because atm i have nothing to really do, don't need to work (i have money, not living of daddy;)), it opens doors to me for the future, which i have been told there are lots of jobs available whether this is true or not i don't know. If i can get a job as a DM travelling the world diving, couldn't think of anything better to be honest, even if the money isn't brilliant i would just love to experience it.
I understand what you guys mean about bits of paper but i honestly do feel confident in the water althought like has been said i have dived in pretty ideal conditions, apart from the occasional bad day, today doing rescue scenarios.
Are there any options of APprenticeship type DM, where if i was a divemaster would there be a possibility of getting a job not getting really getting paid alot but just going for the diving?
thanks
t day.secondly i do appreciate all the advice, I want to become a DM asap because atm i have nothing to really do, don't need to work (i have money, not living of daddy;)), it opens doors to me for the future, which i have been told there are lots of jobs available whether this is true or not i don't know. If i can get a job as a DM travelling the world diving, couldn't think of anything better to be honest, even if the money isn't brilliant i would just love to experience it.
I understand what you guys mean about bits of paper but i honestly do feel confident in the water althought like has been said i have dived in pretty ideal conditions, apart from the occasional bad day, today doing rescue scenarios.
Are there any options of APprenticeship type DM, where if i was a divemaster would there be a possibility of getting a job not getting really getting paid alot but just going for the diving?
thanks
I passed my Rescue course today, 92% on the exam (not happy with some of the answers and the wording) but i understand where and why i went wrong, All the rescue scenarios went well not real problems apart from having to "sufer" from nitrogen narcosis pretending to talk to fish that was interesting and fun.
Get 2 days off until diving at Zenobia, can't wait, was gonna do a night dive tonight but i have to work instead, kinda sucks. 16 dives in total now and 8 hours bottom time!
I know i'm inexperiences and haven't got enough bottom time, but i like the idea of the challenge and i honestly do feel i am ready for it, if at any point i am not i will speak up and let others know that i'm not comfortable with the responsibilty that i have (i know someone is gonna say in a situation it might be too late for me to find out i'm uncomfortable).
There seems to be alot of diving knowledge on here so will take any advice but my mind is set on one thing and thats becoming a sucessful DM, so instead of telling me i'm not ready and uncapable (not intended to sound rude) just give me advice and tips on how to succeed
thanks
Get 2 days off until diving at Zenobia, can't wait, was gonna do a night dive tonight but i have to work instead, kinda sucks. 16 dives in total now and 8 hours bottom time!
I know i'm inexperiences and haven't got enough bottom time, but i like the idea of the challenge and i honestly do feel i am ready for it, if at any point i am not i will speak up and let others know that i'm not comfortable with the responsibilty that i have (i know someone is gonna say in a situation it might be too late for me to find out i'm uncomfortable).
There seems to be alot of diving knowledge on here so will take any advice but my mind is set on one thing and thats becoming a sucessful DM, so instead of telling me i'm not ready and uncapable (not intended to sound rude) just give me advice and tips on how to succeed
thanks
4 rescue scenarios each 20 minutes each as loged dives, abandoned dive after 25 minutes due to buddy paniking.
cuts average dive time down.
basically i have done 4 open water dives then went straight into advanced 5 more dives have done a few just dives then did my rescue over the last 3 days.
I do understand why people are concerned... but people don't seem to bat an eyelid at people doing a weeks intense driving course... same principle really if not worse, in fact getting a big lump of metal that will do over 100mph after a week of driving is quite alot worse. Not trying to change the subject or take the emphisis out of what you guys are saying just saying think about it like that.
Also at 18 the more people tell you can't do anything the more reason there is for them to do it. In my case the more people tell me i can't do something or i shouldn't do something the more it will make me want to suceed and fullfil my goal!
cuts average dive time down.
basically i have done 4 open water dives then went straight into advanced 5 more dives have done a few just dives then did my rescue over the last 3 days.
I do understand why people are concerned... but people don't seem to bat an eyelid at people doing a weeks intense driving course... same principle really if not worse, in fact getting a big lump of metal that will do over 100mph after a week of driving is quite alot worse. Not trying to change the subject or take the emphisis out of what you guys are saying just saying think about it like that.
Also at 18 the more people tell you can't do anything the more reason there is for them to do it. In my case the more people tell me i can't do something or i shouldn't do something the more it will make me want to suceed and fullfil my goal!
Sorry....
My understanding is it is the first step onto the proffesional ladder of diving. Helping others and teaching other Divers how to improve, taking people out on DSD's.
Leading dives, planning dives, completing emergency plans.
Anything i have missed? (could google it, but just making conversation to be nice)
My understanding is it is the first step onto the proffesional ladder of diving. Helping others and teaching other Divers how to improve, taking people out on DSD's.
Leading dives, planning dives, completing emergency plans.
Anything i have missed? (could google it, but just making conversation to be nice
)ali_kat said:
CyprusCraig said:
Also at 18 the more people tell you can't do anything the more reason there is for them to do it. In my case the more people tell me i can't do something or i shouldn't do something the more it will make me want to suceed and fullfil my goal!
I know nothing about diving, but I do know Mel and Fezant Pluckah, and would kindly offer the advice that if this really is something that you want to do, then listen to them, respect and court them, even go so far as to woo them to get their advice and help - as they both know an awful lot about what they are talking about Simply put - you are 18, of course you are going to dig your heels in; however they are older and know what they are talking about, and can advise on the best way to help fulfil your goal
ETA - best of luck with it, nice to see someone so determined
Edited by ali_kat on Wednesday 12th August 23:31
That is what i am hoping for really, experienced divers helping me fulfil my goal quickly but safely.
My answer would not have been quite as complex as that.
i would have said.
Check weather reports, check diver information, talk to the divers on the boat find out who felt confident and decided from this who where to be buddy pairs, i would volunteer myself as a buddy pair with the beginner, the 6 AOW divers i would buddy pair according to who i think would be suitable together, also take into consideration equipment i would like to have atleast 1 computer per buddy pair. On the boat i would give a dive briefing explaing to everyone where we would be going, what to look out for, letting your buddy know when you have 100bar (T), explain about the 3 minute safety stop and ascending rate of no more than 18m/minute.
at lunch i would talk to the divers asking if they had any problems, or if they enjoyed it, give another dive breifing, help with equipment and start dive 2 keeping the same buddy pairs if people where happy with it.
when finished, help divers log their dives, signing and stamping etc... get back to the shore wash the equipment refill tanks, finished... hopefully???
That would have been my honest answer, it has no influence from google or one of the above mosts.
i would have said.
Check weather reports, check diver information, talk to the divers on the boat find out who felt confident and decided from this who where to be buddy pairs, i would volunteer myself as a buddy pair with the beginner, the 6 AOW divers i would buddy pair according to who i think would be suitable together, also take into consideration equipment i would like to have atleast 1 computer per buddy pair. On the boat i would give a dive briefing explaing to everyone where we would be going, what to look out for, letting your buddy know when you have 100bar (T), explain about the 3 minute safety stop and ascending rate of no more than 18m/minute.
at lunch i would talk to the divers asking if they had any problems, or if they enjoyed it, give another dive breifing, help with equipment and start dive 2 keeping the same buddy pairs if people where happy with it.
when finished, help divers log their dives, signing and stamping etc... get back to the shore wash the equipment refill tanks, finished... hopefully???
That would have been my honest answer, it has no influence from google or one of the above mosts.
Mel- I'm sorry hear about that, you might be pleased to hear that i have my CBOS and MIST certicfication ready to offshore whenever i like, but like diving i have no experience offshore.
Fezant- I am learning pretty quickly on here that DM is not a walk in the park, i never expected it to be but i also never expected it to be as hard as it possibly could be. Hard work doesn't really phase me, lst year i was working over here 8hours per day for £25. I often go down to my dive centre and just help out, re filling cylinders, washing equipment etc...
My dive centre haven't encouraged me to take any courses, if anything they have spoke to me and asked me whether or not i am sure this is what i want to do and if i'm doing it for the right reasons. I have been friends with all the instructors down the dive centre for about a year now and not once have they pushed me into doing anything i didn't want to do.
And yes before you ask i have been done on the flavoured air trick!
Fezant- I am learning pretty quickly on here that DM is not a walk in the park, i never expected it to be but i also never expected it to be as hard as it possibly could be. Hard work doesn't really phase me, lst year i was working over here 8hours per day for £25. I often go down to my dive centre and just help out, re filling cylinders, washing equipment etc...
My dive centre haven't encouraged me to take any courses, if anything they have spoke to me and asked me whether or not i am sure this is what i want to do and if i'm doing it for the right reasons. I have been friends with all the instructors down the dive centre for about a year now and not once have they pushed me into doing anything i didn't want to do.
And yes before you ask i have been done on the flavoured air trick!
Just a quick update on my progress.
Passed all my exams 95% average.
all stamina test finished- scored 20 in total
all skills complete little disapointed 90 out of 105, have been practicing in the pool since then.
Conducted 4 DSD's definately the best part of the course, the whole reason i decided to go for my DM
I have an emergency assistance plan to complete then a few more dies to do as a leader and dive briefings.
Equipment will be here next week and i should be signed off within a few weeks i think.
I know what everyone said before, but its something I really wanted to do and I am really enjoying and can't wait to get working!
Passed all my exams 95% average.
all stamina test finished- scored 20 in total
all skills complete little disapointed 90 out of 105, have been practicing in the pool since then.
Conducted 4 DSD's definately the best part of the course, the whole reason i decided to go for my DM
I have an emergency assistance plan to complete then a few more dies to do as a leader and dive briefings.
Equipment will be here next week and i should be signed off within a few weeks i think.
I know what everyone said before, but its something I really wanted to do and I am really enjoying and can't wait to get working!
glad to see so many people starting scuba diving.
I took on board alot of advive given here.
the only advice i didn't take was to not start.
I have been listening to everything, not messing about, taking everything very seriously.
Everyone was right, DM is not what i thought it was, its alot harder, long hours and a lot of responsibility which for some i can see to be quite a intimidating situation, i have been put through several situation throughout dives by my instructor. Obviously i'm not going to experience every posible problem but i have done quite a few of the more common problems.
I hope to dive with some of you one day
I took on board alot of advive given here.
the only advice i didn't take was to not start.
I have been listening to everything, not messing about, taking everything very seriously.
Everyone was right, DM is not what i thought it was, its alot harder, long hours and a lot of responsibility which for some i can see to be quite a intimidating situation, i have been put through several situation throughout dives by my instructor. Obviously i'm not going to experience every posible problem but i have done quite a few of the more common problems.
I hope to dive with some of you one day
Bit of a bump really.
Also I have been working out in Egypt for the last 6 months gaining lots of experience. So much experience that the dive centre I work for suggested I do the IDC so I did. Not wanting to sound like a tt but i sailed through the IE getting 100% in pretty much everything, I understand that this does not make me a good instructor. In fact I am stting myself about teaching my first course.
I have racked up just under 300 dives now.
Any other new divers since last year??
Also I have been working out in Egypt for the last 6 months gaining lots of experience. So much experience that the dive centre I work for suggested I do the IDC so I did. Not wanting to sound like a t
t but i sailed through the IE getting 100% in pretty much everything, I understand that this does not make me a good instructor. In fact I am stting myself about teaching my first course. I have racked up just under 300 dives now.
Any other new divers since last year??
ss64ii said:
Hi
Haven't read all the thread, but is there an age limit on diving? I'm in Northern Cyprus in August and would like to take my 10 & 11 year old boys diving, if possible.
thanks.
Where abouts in TRNC are you staying I can recomend a very good dive centre with top quality service and small ratio's for your boys!Haven't read all the thread, but is there an age limit on diving? I'm in Northern Cyprus in August and would like to take my 10 & 11 year old boys diving, if possible.
thanks.
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