Classic Impreza - Forester XT - Differences ?
Discussion
I have previously owned a 2.0T Jap and UK Classic Imprezas and recently bought a 2.5XT Forester.
I know the Forester is slightly heavier and softer / raised suspension but is there differences in Diffs etc ?
I remember a sharp turn in that's missing (I'm running 225/50/17 Contis)
On hard launches the front obviously loses grip whereas I remember the Classics just taking off
On turning right from a standstill the same happens - the Classics just went, the Forester loses grip and steering.
Essentially the Forester seems more front biased and you can feel it's lost grip before transferring power to the back, in the Classic I was unaware that was happening
I know the Forester is slightly heavier and softer / raised suspension but is there differences in Diffs etc ?
I remember a sharp turn in that's missing (I'm running 225/50/17 Contis)
On hard launches the front obviously loses grip whereas I remember the Classics just taking off
On turning right from a standstill the same happens - the Classics just went, the Forester loses grip and steering.
Essentially the Forester seems more front biased and you can feel it's lost grip before transferring power to the back, in the Classic I was unaware that was happening
v8250 said:
From one FXT owner to another...you'd be better off asking these Q?'s here...
subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f75/
Re' difference in handling, unless your FXT is in mint low mileage condition you won't really know how tired some of the suspension components will be so comparing an FXT with a Classic, or a WRX for that matter, has no bearing. Also, if your FXT is still using SLS there will naturally be some shift in handing. Similarly, tyres...if you're running GeoSquealers or lower quality tyres or tyres that are/have gone off. To compare correctly the FXT's suspension should be specific coil overs and tyres need to be in tip-top condition. Increase the rear ARB, drop links and bushes...and you'll see a big tranformation. Lastly, CoG...simply, the FXT's ride height raises CoG and :. handling characteristics. If you're wanting the FXT to handle like an Impreza you'd better start mod'ing.
I'll take a look - I did ask a couple of questions on a Forester Forum and didn't get any replies so gave up on them.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f75/
Re' difference in handling, unless your FXT is in mint low mileage condition you won't really know how tired some of the suspension components will be so comparing an FXT with a Classic, or a WRX for that matter, has no bearing. Also, if your FXT is still using SLS there will naturally be some shift in handing. Similarly, tyres...if you're running GeoSquealers or lower quality tyres or tyres that are/have gone off. To compare correctly the FXT's suspension should be specific coil overs and tyres need to be in tip-top condition. Increase the rear ARB, drop links and bushes...and you'll see a big tranformation. Lastly, CoG...simply, the FXT's ride height raises CoG and :. handling characteristics. If you're wanting the FXT to handle like an Impreza you'd better start mod'ing.
I have started modding - it already had the Whiteline ARB, I've added WRX 17 alloys with 225/50/17 Continental Sport Contacts and TBH the feeback is still awful as is the front grip.
I don't want to lower it really - it's height and comfort over potholes was one of the main reasons I bought it.
Whilst I intend to get it aligned (thanks for a spec) I have to decide whether I'm refreshing the suspension first.
This is my daily hack rather than my toy and I can't see that the alignment would affect the power transfer.
I thought that the Forester was an Impreza with a different body, suspension and turbo - is this correct ?
Because mine feels like it has different diffs (or something similar) - admittedly my limited experience was all with Classics but I thought the basic drivetrain (engine, gearbox, diffs etc) was carried forward onto the later models.
This is my daily hack rather than my toy and I can't see that the alignment would affect the power transfer.
I thought that the Forester was an Impreza with a different body, suspension and turbo - is this correct ?
Because mine feels like it has different diffs (or something similar) - admittedly my limited experience was all with Classics but I thought the basic drivetrain (engine, gearbox, diffs etc) was carried forward onto the later models.
It's manual.
When it goes on the 4WD dyno I hope I'll be able to see how it's transferring power around.
Before the Decat I didn't notice but after removing the 3 Cats, the extra torque is noticeable - I suppose with the Classics being 2.0 and larger turbo V FXT 2.5 and smaller turbo it may just be the extra low down torque overwhelming the fronts.
When it goes on the 4WD dyno I hope I'll be able to see how it's transferring power around.
Before the Decat I didn't notice but after removing the 3 Cats, the extra torque is noticeable - I suppose with the Classics being 2.0 and larger turbo V FXT 2.5 and smaller turbo it may just be the extra low down torque overwhelming the fronts.
No - that's the strange thing when I have had a play from the lights it's had so much grip that I get a slipping (and stinking clutch)
This is when I'm pulling out of junctions (admittedly rapidly to join the flow of traffic) I remember being stunned how well the Impreza did this and the FXT doesn't.
If the drivetrain is the same, I suppose it has to be the suspension.
This is when I'm pulling out of junctions (admittedly rapidly to join the flow of traffic) I remember being stunned how well the Impreza did this and the FXT doesn't.
If the drivetrain is the same, I suppose it has to be the suspension.
Ah I seem to remember that it has got lower gearing which could be partially responsible.
I had it remapped today 273bhp, 303ftlb - I didn't get much chance to test it out due to traffic, whilst it does pull better, it isn't that obvious and feels like it only added a similar amount as Decatting did.
I had it remapped today 273bhp, 303ftlb - I didn't get much chance to test it out due to traffic, whilst it does pull better, it isn't that obvious and feels like it only added a similar amount as Decatting did.
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