3.3 type r

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JollyGrnMonster

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Sunday 30th January 2011
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It fits lol, trial fit a success



Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Sunday 30th January 2011
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SVX engine yes.

Its a 2.2 with two extra cylinders ie. Known, parts available etc..

the actual engine that will be in the car when complete is having forged pistons, custom rods, billet cams and the block pinned etc..

Simon

Edited by JollyGrnMonster on Monday 31st January 00:01

JollyGrnMonster

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Monday 31st January 2011
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rhinochopig said:
Is this going to be a TA car? If so why the flat 6 - drive out of slow speed corners?

Seems an odd choice given the increased weight and cost, when the four pots can make big power.

If it's just because then - clap Well done Sir!
Road, track, sprint etc replacing my current classic with a 4 pot.
Different and next step really current flat4 with a gt35r without nos is about as laggy as I am willing to go but 665bhp is not enOugh lol

So flat6 an alternative route.

JollyGrnMonster

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Monday 31st January 2011
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Hol said:
I always thought you had an insane streak Simon.


I do look forward to seeing it completed though.
Thanks, I think smile

JollyGrnMonster

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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DocJock said:
Sounds cool.

Did Pat H ever finish his?
Think he has built / helped build others but not his own.

That engine is his on loan for fabricating as my own is being built

JollyGrnMonster

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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rhinochopig said:
Sounds a sensible, if very expensive approach. Will you be using a twin sequential turbo set-up then to minimise lag.

Out of interest would a supercharger / tubo set-up on the flat four not have given you the same results?
With a pair of 350bhp turbos I hope to make 700bhp on vpower then have racefuel adnd nos

No flat4 would be laggier

JollyGrnMonster

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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klimakool said:
looks amazing, and hope one day to see the finished product. if i can help in anyway sourcing parts with my hks and blitz account feel free to give me a shout
Wont be long

Goes for paint later this month and forged engine nearly finished

JollyGrnMonster

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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klimakool said:
looks amazing, and hope one day to see the finished product. if i can help in anyway sourcing parts with my hks and blitz account feel free to give me a shout
Wont be long

Goes for paint later this month and forged engine nearly finished

JollyGrnMonster

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Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Yep

Some progress too

JollyGrnMonster

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Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Saturday 12th February 2011
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Little update

Bit of time spent on it today.

I started the process of polishing the manifold

Removed front hubs, suspension and wheels

and fitted replacements





Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Sunday 13th February 2011
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Headers are tubular

From 3 cylinders on one bank to a collector and then to uppipe to turbo, same on each side.

Suspension is tein super street coil overs with edfc smile

What looks cast is the tubular front frame which has surface rust on at minute

Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Sunday 13th February 2011
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just for you

In a will it blend style - will it spool?


Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Monday 14th February 2011
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Engine is sat on standard engine mounts and subframe.
This pic is on very low suspension and angle makes bottom tube look a lot lower than it is but you can see engine is not high no


Will be wrapped, played with coatings before but never last.

Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Wednesday 16th February 2011
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8000+ rpm

Basically the block is being pinned so will be like a closed deck block, same as the ej22t but with two extra cylinders.
Using forged pistons that are normally used in a 2.35litre build and have custom rods to allow that with the standard throw crank which is same as 2.2 and 2litre etc
Cams are being machined from billet blanks as the orignals wont take a wild enough profile, valves and valve train is replaced with supertec valves and double springs and new buckets and springs which is probably similar price to the cage install lol eek just on the heads.
Will be interesting as in effect it is two 1650cc engines spooling a 350bhp turbo so it maybe very laggy and need to play with uppipe diameters or it might not as the off boost 3.3 should be reasonable.
Other option is of course to revert to a single turbo gt42rs for example, but the engine just lays out asking for twin

Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Friday 18th February 2011
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Very rare do I see a relinered block without issues of some sort of having to resurfaced after a period of time as the liners settle and move.

Hence on the 4pot the ej22t block is the winner. Hoping with block pinned it should be okay as liners are fairly thick.

There has been stroker cranks made but they are billet and very expensive, if thise engine works well then I may build another bottom end with a billet crank.
I dont like to assume this engine and setup will work as I want until I have it working etc.

Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Other than dropping the rad off with stew at tfs racing last week I havent had time to do anything but it would appear stew has smile




Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Thursday 24th February 2011
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Kozy said:
Insane build! Aren't Tein Superstreets and K-Sport brakes a bit low end for something like this?
I think people spend far to much on bling bits of kit and assume they do a better job.. the tein are actually pretty good and the ksports work.

I have considered and have a set of AP4 pot setup which I am hoping will work as well but gain on the weight saving.

I like the Exetc suspension but they only do the track stuff now and this car will be used on the road and the road dirt and road use will kill the exetc stuff.

In an ideal world I would have a couple of sets of brakes, wheel, suspension and change for the application the car is going to do but this is more a bit of fun and enjoyment for me so if I lose a few seconds off a sprint lap so be it.. etc
should I get focused on doing something then I might change the setup to suit and go chasing something be it sprint or drag etc..

Going to be interesting to see the influence the extra weight at the front has on the handling... I am not colin mcrae and I may not even notice smile

Simon

JollyGrnMonster

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Friday 25th February 2011
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kin quick said:
Looking good Simon, can't wait to see this when it's finished, some serious amount of engineering and development going on there chap!!

Good luck with it fella clap

Think your colour hair makes you more of a Petter than a Mcrea!
Lol

Thanks smile

JollyGrnMonster

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Friday 25th February 2011
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rhinochopig said:
You can still get the Exetc road kits - sort of. http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=345...
Very nice, thanks for that