Revelations of the Pyramids

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Ever since I was a kid I have been fasinated with the Pyramids and other ancient structures around the world, how they where made, who made them and the standards to which they where built.

Anyway I recently found a documenty that some of you may be interested in. If you want, as a taster, start the clip at 51.35 and watch for about 15 minutes to give you an idea of what the documentry is about. Some of the figures and measurements involved are incredible, for example the Egptian unit of measurement 'The Cubit'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit

I know it's a long documentry but when I first watched it I was only going to give it about 5 minutes and I got hooked.

Sorry about the subtitles, the documentry keeps getting taken down and then re-uploaded, at the moment this is the only one I can find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQlL1xT0dc

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Tuesday 10th January 21:31

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I can't remember them being mentioned no

Like I say give it 15 or so minutes and see what you think. I found it very thought provoking

1.18.18 - "Take this figure to a physicist......."

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Tuesday 10th January 21:50

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nellyleelephant said:

Eric Mc said:

I thought that this was a science forum?

Maybe this shoule be moved to Homes, Gardens and DIY?

Bit too much of a bitter pill eh ?

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So what part is woo woo then ?

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Eric Mc said:

What have pyramids got to do with science?

(Civil engineering perhaps).

The Pyramids have been scientifically debated for hundreds of years, the subject has as much right to be in this forum as anything else.

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Also Nice to see people who propose to be members of the scientific community commenting and judging without looking at the subject context. .

The video explains far better than I ever could.

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Am working at the moment sorry. No it doesn't propose aliens or whoever built it. You are left to make your own conclusions.

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jmorgan said:

OK, I conclude men built it and it looked good.

A very scientific analysis that :

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I'm open to possibilities.

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Will try explaining my thoughts later when more time.

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silvagod said:

I've watched the whole thing....

Well at least somebody bothered to watch it...thank you

silvagod said:

Well, they try and explain things with a scientific 'leaning' but constantly trip themselves up by mentioning 'if you move this square over that triangle it gives you the golden number' and other such vague interpretations of the measurements and scales of the pyramids.

That's not quite true is it The documentary explains perfectly what they talking about and an idiot can understand why they are showing each calculation. Were any of those calculations wrong or irrelevant to what they where showing?

silvagod said:

What they end up saying is that we have been warned by a long lost civilisation, one that was wiped out by fire, that we too are to meet such a fate. The pyramids and other ancient monuments are an encoded warning to us to be careful about climate change.

That's their conclusion though. We are told they made everything with copper chisels and round hand pounders....I find that conclusion laughable, which I have previously in other threads explained why.

silvagod said:

Granted, some parts of it were interesting, but they added 'scientist' type comments just for show.

It's a show made so that anybody, even simpletons like me can understand what the point they are making. How would you suggest it was made?

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TheHeretic said:

OP... Aliens of human builders?

I hear ya, I hear ya! However much I'd like to spend all day reading and posting on PH, my work unfortunately doesn't always allow it.

Why it's so important what I think or believe I don't know. As said before I honestly don't know and I'm open to possibilities, is that a problem then ?

The pyramids etc have been studied for hundreds of years by many great minds and we still don't have any definitive answers. Egyptologists say it was done this way and many professionals in their field say they're talking rubbish. Surely we could have worked it all out by now if it was all that simple.

Scratching a piece of granite with a copper saw or whatever, then getting out a calculator does not produce a Pyramid or a work of art !

Silvagod will hopefully remember the pathetic effort of Egyptologists trying to lift a stone which took then over 10 hours to lift and put in place. I'm yet to see any of these halfwits produce anything comparable to what these ancient people produced, be it the Pyramid or a granite vase. Yet they bang on and on how simple it all was.....well go and make something remotely comparable then !!!!

silvagod said:

Finally though, if this 'superior' race left us a message that we were all going to be wiped out and sent it as a warning, why go to all the trouble of the pyramid plans, the easter island plans, the Machu Pichu (sp) plans, why not just tell someone or write it down in a way that everyone could understand. There's really no need to be all cryptic. Hang on...they could be Freemasons!

Maybe they thought, whoever made all this stuff, writing something down can be open to interpretation. We all know how that if something is written in an ancient text it is interpreted as fiction if it doesn't fit with our world or nicey nicey view of the past.

Setting something in stone that doesn't move or change over time challenges questions.

Like the documentary says, how many coincidences do you want before you look at something and think maybe just maybe it isn't all coincidence after all... I don't know, I found it interesting though.

hairykrishna said:

last time Westy was arguing that cutting granite with copper saws was impossible.

No I didn't ! I have said though that I don't believe we have found all the tools they used.

Apparently they didn't have a wheel......So they managed all this amazing stuff with so-called simple tools and not one of those people dropped a round plate on the floor, watch it roll and it never struck an idea.....give over will ya. Only recently they found a load of Pyramids etc they didn't know they had using satellite technology, yet they say they have found all the tools. IIRC in that documentary one single core drill sample found objects they didn't know they had!

Sorry, back to work

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Friday 13th January 07:39

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hairykrishna said:

You do that Denys Stocks chap and his colleagues a massive disservice. Have you actually looked at the links to that book, or his papers posted earlier? The experimental work he carried out goes far beyond 'scratching a piece of granite'. He comprehensively demonstrated most, if not all, of the tools and techniques required to produce ancient Egyptian stonework. I know it doesn't fit into your 'it's all so mysterious' mantra but he's had a damn good go at definitive answers as have many others.

You will also remember then that I linked to the site that those experiments were taken place.

It was noted that a lot of material was being lost on the cutting tool throughout the cutting process. It has also been mentioned elsewhere that it is believed that was nowhere near enough cooper available at the time to produce all this stuff even when you factor in recycling.

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A link I have previously posted was from on the NOVA site, maybe I have posted it elsewhere.

I can't remember where I read about the copper issue but IIRC it was something to do with the amount that had be mined. Will try to find them later...sorry am rushing around all over the place atm I'm afraid.

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 15th January 13:46

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Pfft Göbekli Tepe is for amateurs

Apparently this got knocked out in a week with a few chisels and hammers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E23s8MmSjuQ