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Eric Mc

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Thursday 7th July 2016
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In keeping with the separate threads for different types of spacecraft, I thought that it would be worthwhile starting one purely to cover Soyuz based missions, both manned and unmanned. After all, the Soyuz series and its predecessors have been a very successful series and is currently what keeps the space station project going.

Last night a brand new and upgraded version of thee Soyuz spacecraft made its maiden flight. The new version, known as Soyuz - MS replaces the previous generation Soyuz TMA family.

Video of the launch here -




Eric Mc

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The important aspect of any re-entry vehicle is the base to which the heat shield is attached. The rest of the body can be any shape as long as the sides are kept away from the high temperature plasma that surrounds the vehicle.

Apollo (and now Orion) have quite steeply sloped sides because they re-enter(ed) the earth's atmosphere at speeds substantially higher than a spacecraft re-entering from earth orbit i.e. 25,000 mph compared to 17,500. That is what dictates their shapes.

Earlier American earth orbiting capsules (Mercury and Gemini) had sides that were not as acutely tapered as Apollo or Orion.

Soyuz is more akin to Gemini in the heat loads it experiences.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 7th July 2016
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Not really now. They definitely re-invented the wheel with the Space Shuttle. However, nearly all the current launchers in use are evolutions of pre-existing technology. Don't forget the Americans also use Atlas and Delta, which have a pedigree as old are the R-7 Semyorka rocket.

The exception is of course, the Falcon family - but even their rocket motor technology is not particularly ground breaking.

Eric Mc

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Friday 8th July 2016
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That is a very good point. The Soyuz was indeed designed to withstand lunar mission re-entry speeds. In fact, a number of Zond flights which looped around the moon in 1968 (unmanned) were in fact, tests of the Soyuz lunar mission profile.
So the Soyuz re-entry module COULD survive a 25,000 mph re-entry.

Like Apollo, Zond/Soyuz was also ballasted offset so that its angle during re-entry could be altered to achieve a skip glide technique, which reduced aerodynamic loads, heat loads and g-loads on the craft during re-entry.

Some of the Zonds actually splashed down American style rather than landed on land.

As you can see from the picture, Soviet recovery forces were rather less ambitious than those employed by the US.


Eric Mc

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Saturday 9th July 2016
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Some of the best and clearest TV images I've seen on a Soyuz docking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmiMPmkjX4

The MS-01 craft docked with the ISS on 8 July after two days chasing.

In the past few years, the time for a Soyuz to catch up with the ISS was reduced from a few days to a few hours.

However, because this is the first flight of a new variant of Soyuz, they reverted to the slower catch up routine - presumably to give the Soyuz commander time to wring out any bugs on what was, in effect, a test flight.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 19th July 2016
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The crew capsule for Voshkod 1 was on display at the Science Museum earlier in the year.



It was seriously cramped. Not only were three men squeezed in to what was effectively a one man Vostok, in order to get three in, they had to rotate the crew sideways on. This meant that the main instruments were to one side of the crew - rather than directly in front of them. It was a real lash-up job and only proceeded with so the Soviets could get three men into space before the Americans launched their first two man Gemini spacecraft.

Soyuz also has a spherical "Orbital Module" attached to the front of the craft which contains storage space and, most importantly, a small loo.




Eric Mc

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Saturday 23rd July 2016
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I'm working on a Soyuz model at the moment and will post up some pictures when it's finished - which won't be for a couple of weeks I estimate.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I just realised that I intended to post up some pictures of my finished Soyuz model - and then forgot. I did post some pictures in the Scale Models forum but I'm sure not all of you go there.









Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Interesting to see how small it is compared to an Apollo.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th January 2017
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They are supplies for the ISS. They use the Soyuz as well as Progress etc for bringing supplies.

The orbital module at the front is also packed with stuff for the ISS.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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Missed the launch this morning but Soyuz MS-04 is currently station keeping with the ISS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ndckCXXwE

Eric Mc

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Thursday 18th May 2017
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Soyuz launch from French Guiana this morning.

https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/05/18/vs17-mission...

Eric Mc

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Thursday 18th May 2017
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I wonder if we'll get the "Watch With Mother" lady?

Eric Mc

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Thursday 18th May 2017
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Of course I'll criticise her if she talks like she talking to 5 year olds. If they want to do a commentary in English, get someone who's good at it in English. If she brilliant in German, let he do the German commentary.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 20th July 2017
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Interesting footage from orbit of the recent Soyuz rocket launch -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySbcCOSmQI0

It actually plays better at 1/4 speed.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 12th October 2017
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Not something we see too often - today's launch of a Progress resupply craft was scrubbed seconds before main engine ignition -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWa7EX85eng

Eric Mc

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Saturday 14th October 2017
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Attempt number two in about eight minutes.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 11th April 2018
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Any technical information?

I presume the Soyuz spacecraft on top remains essential;l;y the same.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 11th April 2018
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MartG said:
Did you click on the wiki link ?
Didn't spot it. I will now smile

Eric Mc

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Monday 30th April 2018
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The Apollo Command Module is still on display at the Science Museum. It is the craft used on Apollo 12 and the only genuine Command Module on display outside the US.

The Soyuz Descent/Re-Entry Module is much smaller. However, there is more to a Soyuz than just the Re-Entry Module. It is actually a three section spacecraft, two of these sections can be accessed during flight by the crew.

During launch and descent, the crew members are crammed into the Descent Module. Once in orbit, they can also use the Orbital Module.