2040 - Humans to be replaced by machines.
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Not for humans…
Within the next couple of years computers will be as “intelligent” as a mouse.
By 2020 we will have reverse engineered the human brain.
By 2040 computing intelligence will rival that of all human brains combined.
Clearly all theoretical but following a clear exponential graph that is coming true. Like it or not this could be soon as significant as humans first evolving speech and will provide the answers to many questions, including living forever (in the virtual sense) by downloading your brains contents to a machine, and biological and machine integration (its happening now).
Are we just a biological experiment crated by our forefathers whose sense of “time” is irrelevant because they discovered how to live forever?
Relevant links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kurzweil
Ray Kurzweil Explains the Coming Singularity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE
http://singinst.org/overview/whyworktowardthesingu...
Extract:
At the very least it should be physically possible to achieve a million-to-one speedup in thinking, at which rate a subjective year would pass in 31 physical seconds. At this rate the entire subjective time-span from Socrates in ancient Greece to modern-day humanity would pass in under twenty-two hours.
Within the next couple of years computers will be as “intelligent” as a mouse.
By 2020 we will have reverse engineered the human brain.
By 2040 computing intelligence will rival that of all human brains combined.
Clearly all theoretical but following a clear exponential graph that is coming true. Like it or not this could be soon as significant as humans first evolving speech and will provide the answers to many questions, including living forever (in the virtual sense) by downloading your brains contents to a machine, and biological and machine integration (its happening now).
Are we just a biological experiment crated by our forefathers whose sense of “time” is irrelevant because they discovered how to live forever?
Relevant links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kurzweil
Ray Kurzweil Explains the Coming Singularity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE
http://singinst.org/overview/whyworktowardthesingu...
Extract:
At the very least it should be physically possible to achieve a million-to-one speedup in thinking, at which rate a subjective year would pass in 31 physical seconds. At this rate the entire subjective time-span from Socrates in ancient Greece to modern-day humanity would pass in under twenty-two hours.
Edited by EINSIGN on Saturday 26th February 14:28
Marf said:
I don't think your thread title is accurate
"2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
I agree, but the point being that many aspects are clearly theoretical, including dates and exactly what will happen. And Kurzweil is the not the only person who has views on the subject. "2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
Edited by Marf on Saturday 26th February 12:25
By the time AI becomes self aware the biological aspects might not be required any more, who knows? What I do know is that we humans will have a sharp wake up call very soon.
Any yes the terminator movies are very relevant
McAndy said:
I'm not convinced. Human brains demonstrate emotion, which can often be described a failry illogical. You'd have to try and programme emotion. Programming is done through logical steps. QED.
Babies brains are programmed as they grow, through the evolutionary (and very slow process) of survival through signals supplied to the brain, via pain, sight, sound etc, some would argue that emotion and logic are also learnt. So why couldn’t a computer do the same?The growth of intelligent computers will go so fast when it happens that humans will not be able to comprehend nor understand it. Even comparing what will happen to humans is not logical as we will be considered an inferior design.
1 Year in human terms could be 31 seconds in processing power terms in the future. Imagine what could be invented, created or destroyed in only a couple of hours…
tank slapper said:
You can't predict emergent behaviour in that way. At the most basic level humans and animals operate in an entirely logical fashion - the cells that make up organisms operate according to the laws of physics. Everything above that is emergent - the result of evolution.
If machines somehow ended up being able to reproduce autonomously and had the capacity for mutation, then similar behaviour would almost certainly occur in them. If there is no capacity for mutation, and they just make exact copies, then each generation would be exactly the same as the previous generation, and no new abilities or behaviours would emerge.
Humans operate emotionally not logically, for example we keep weaker humans alive, causing over population and damage to natural resources, why?If machines somehow ended up being able to reproduce autonomously and had the capacity for mutation, then similar behaviour would almost certainly occur in them. If there is no capacity for mutation, and they just make exact copies, then each generation would be exactly the same as the previous generation, and no new abilities or behaviours would emerge.
Machines will not reproduce in the sense that a human can understand, intelligence allows you to build/invent something better without waiting millions of years like animals have had to with evolution.
We currently use computers to manufacture better computers, the slow element on making the better computers is only the human element. Once removed, well…
k off.
Updated following the recent singularity summit:
http://www.youtube.com/user/SingularitySummits
http://www.singularitysummit.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/SingularitySummits
http://www.singularitysummit.com/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-260...
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-23/speech-re...
Three years ago, Google's voice recognition could recognize just three out of four words coming out of your mouth, Schalkwyk says. Thanks to an accelerated pace of innovation, the Google apps on your phone right now can correctly guess 12 out of every 13 words. Pretty soon, according to Tuttle, "We're going to live in a world where devices don’t have keyboards."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-23/speech-re...
Three years ago, Google's voice recognition could recognize just three out of four words coming out of your mouth, Schalkwyk says. Thanks to an accelerated pace of innovation, the Google apps on your phone right now can correctly guess 12 out of every 13 words. Pretty soon, according to Tuttle, "We're going to live in a world where devices don’t have keyboards."
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