When Was Your Last Fight?
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And Why Did It Happen?
My last fight (excluding Thai Boxing!
) was when I was 18 (9 years ago). It was (kind of) over a girl and was all over in a few minutes. Pretty much a draw - he caught me by surprise with a full-on punch in the face, then when I didn't go down it turned into a wrestling macth and kind of petered out. Pretty pathetic really.
So, come on, I'm sure some of you have some very interesting stories.....
My last fight (excluding Thai Boxing!
) was when I was 18 (9 years ago). It was (kind of) over a girl and was all over in a few minutes. Pretty much a draw - he caught me by surprise with a full-on punch in the face, then when I didn't go down it turned into a wrestling macth and kind of petered out. Pretty pathetic really. So, come on, I'm sure some of you have some very interesting stories.....
jacobyte said:
jacobyte said:
I think us pacifists are winning here
Not sure i'm a pacifist, the opportunity has just never arisen, i was a black belt at Karate when i was younger, you wouldnt have
Believe it or not, I did boxing for 4 years (some time ago), and Kung Fu for the past 3 years (Wing Chun).
There's no pattern there - I was the belt below black in Shukoki Karate at 14, have done boxing, Thai Boxing, Ju Jitsu, etc. I did reach a stage once where I was frightened of getting in a fight in case I really hurt someone. Ironically, aged about 16 the school bully (who was later expelled) unwisely started on me. He threw a punch at my head, I caught his wrist and honestly not wanting to throw a punch I instinctively pulled him forward with his punch, swivelled and smacked his head into a metal bar in the cloakroom!
I think it hurt quite a bit more than a punch as it happens. Anyway, after about 10 mins he got up and started again (he was a nutter). This time I just overpowered him and pinned him down until he calmed down. Afterwards he spat on my shirt when I wasn't there - very brave guy he was. nightmare said:
Roadsweeper....whereabouts you train? Used to compete a fair bit in the UK, learnt down at Stockport with Master Sken et al....
Ah, very interesting. I trained with Master Bill Judd at Bethnal Green. My mate Sak Nayagam is fighting for the Welterweight WMTO World Title against Aussie No. 1 Ben 'Pixie' Burton at Leicester Square next Sunday. (Unfortunately I can't be there). Do you know him?
Edited to add: I'm based near Stockport in a couple of weeks and have heard Master Sken is excellent so might be going down to take a look.
>> Edited by roadsweeper on Thursday 25th November 16:39
Fat Audi 80 said:
Personally I don't see the point. It takes a bigger and more confident man to walk away from a fight than start one...
...
Its just childish egos at the end of the day. Even if you CAN beat someone up, what does it prove???
That's my 2p's worth anyway.
I agree. I've walked away from, or talked my way out of, many potential fights, but sometimes you have no choice.
Regardless, discussing the morality of fighting is not what this thread is about - I want to hear some stories!
@ tallbloke
v8thunder said:
I don't do fights - it shows you've got no reasoning skills.
I'm afraid this is a generalisation and as such can be considered utter bollocks! Try telling that to my pacifist friend who was put in a coma over nothing. Yes, some people resort to violence as a way of life, others find themselves in unavoidable situations where it's fight or be a punchbag and possibly a corpse. I truly hope you never find yourself in such a situation, but if you do, you'll retract that statement very quickly I assure you.
Peace!
-off huge knife. Usually seems to simultaneously win the argument and avoid the fight.
cliffe_mafia said:
If some drunken idiot come running over to you with fists flying you've 2 options - deck him first or run away!
Worst of all, sometimes you can't run away. Anyway, no more discussing of the morality of fighting please, that's not what this thread is about. One more post like that from anyone and I'm going to 'go medieval' on them.
pzero64 said:
About 20 years ago I was surprised by someone who hit me on the head with a metal pipe. I don’t remember anything for a couple of minutes afterwards, but I got back to college and one of the lecturers took me to hospital. Got a £1,000 for that. Which was nice.
God, if only he had hit you forty times, you'd have been able to buy a TVR! v8thunder said:
I know exactly what you mean - my cousin was put in hospital thanks to a gang assault for no reason.
What I meant to say was, if having a fight is their way of sorting things out, try and get them under the impression they can't win whatever it is they want. If they're adamand, walk away or be resourceful with whatever comes to hand - put it this way, if it bleeds, it's not a good weapon!
Fair enough.
The problem with using a weapon if you're not in fear of your life (in which case who cares about the consequences) is that if you seriously injure or even kill your attacker you will be convicted in a court of law. So, even if someone punches you in the face without provocation and you're terrified and as a result hit him with whatever nasty object comes to hand, you'll be deemed not to have used minimum force in defending yourself. If he dies, you could be done for murder or manslaughter.
As for knives, I've had one pulled on me and was attacked in that incident. I have no time for people who use knives in anything other than a life or death situation and would quite happily maim someone who pulled one on me.
bigandclever said:
Most stupid 'fight' was when I was 18, driving around my home town. I saw a bloke dragging a woman across the road by her hair and figured I should get involved. Long and short of it is that I ran him over, not at any massive speed, but enough to catapult him about 10 foot. I got out to see if she was OK and she broke my nose with her handbag. Stupid tart - I left them to it.
Christ, what was she carrying in her handbah, cement?!
bigandclever said:
Oh, and the time I was working in a bookies in Coventry and some nobhead went for me with an axe. That was interesting, I stuck one of those little biros in his eye. Soon stopped him.
Good one!
In that kind of situation strikes to the eyes, throat and groin with the hardest thing you can find are more than justified.mungo said:
used minimum force in defending yourself.
The term is reasonable force rather than minimum in the circumstances...
You've pretty much spelt out what it means though
Yeah, I know the wording from my Ju Jitsu days (was trained by a scouse copper), I just wanted to get across that reasonable generally means the minimum amount you could be expected to use, or 'proportionate' force. For example, if someone uses a weapon on you then I believe you are entitled to use a weapon to defend yourself?
__LEE__ said:
mutt k said:
After a mate had a bottle broken over his head last year, and I saw a couple of fights kick off for no good reason, I figured that the nutter quotient was getting too high, so I did six months training in Krav Maga, and then swapped to kickboxing which I am still doing.
I am not going to go looking for trouble, but if it finds me, then I feel rather more confident about being able to deal with it.
Sorry for your troubles. In the meantime what do you think of Krav Maga? Was there any special reason for swapping to kickboxing?
The reason is that I'm planning to start training something like that and KM is one of firsts in my list to try.
Krav Maga is taught to several Special Forces, enough said. But it is good to learn a few different forms i.e. grapling, striking.
I've considered Krav Maga myself, but haven't had chance to try it yet. IMHO cross-training is very useful as one can mix the best techniques from each art into something that most suits the individual - basically what JKD is about I believe.
For a punch up, few things are better than Thai Boxing. The use of elbows and knees is not expected in a normal fight and can do far more damage that fists. For a wrestling style fight, Judo, Ju Jitsu etc. are great. If someone has a weapon, something like Krav Maga or Ju Jitsu might be most suitable. If you're using a weapon or fighting in difficult environmental conditions then Silat is generally recognised as being very effective.
nightmare said:
Oh and Krav Maga is NOT a self defence art. neither is Thai boxing. Both are combat arts and were developed to maim and kill.......they are not good learning to help pacify street situations if you ask me.....
Cheers for your reply nightmare.
I completely agree about Thai Boxing - it is fantastically effective as a hand-to-hand combat method and very useful in something like a bar fight. Integral to that is the fact it is so vicious and dangerous. As I mentioned earlier, the use of elbows and knees in the Thai Boxing style is generally not expected by an opponent and the general speed, power, fitness, mental strength and experience of 'real' fighting of any decent Thai Boxer makes them a formidable opponent indeed.
Regarding Krav Maga, I haven't studied it myself, but my understanding is that it is a scientifically designed method whose sole purpose is to kill or aim as quickly and efficiently as possible, somewhat like a modern version of Muay Boran. I would imagine if you use Krav Maga against someone it would have to be in a life or death situation. I know there are several strikes I was taught by my Ju Jitsu instructor (which I have no intention of describing on a public forum!) that no sensible person would use in a 'normal' fight, but I would use if I was in fear of my life.
Sak (my friend fighting Ben) is very good. I watched him go the distance with another world champion a couple of months ago and although he lost he gave a very good account of himself. His fighting prowess is particularly admirable when you consider that he works full time in a very demanding, very high pressure job requiring long hours.
See Sak 'The Slayer' Nayagam info here.
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