RE: Renault Clio V6

Wednesday 3rd March 2004

Renault Clio V6

252bhp of mid engined V6 in a hatchback. A recipe for madness or immense fun?


What sort of girlfriend would you really like?  A very pretty, high maintenance woman that spends ages getting ready and loves make up, besides being a label shopacholic.  Or perhaps a plainer girl that is keen on unusual sports, foreign films and not fussed by “label” clothes and overpriced winebars.  Sounds much more fun to be with and hey the conversation will be erudite too! 

Cars are a bit like this, even performance models.  Imprezas and EVos may have be fast and very capable but their oriental efficiency often results in a lack of depth or soul. 

As exciting but with more character is the mid–engined Clio V6. Is it right to seriously consider such a wild rear-drive oddball in the same company as the uber Japanese kings though? 

Renault Clio V6 Drive one and I guarantee that you'll emerge with a bigger smile and your chequebook poised.  This car has oodles of character and soul.  It’s a far bigger hoot than the obvious competitors. 

For a start that 3 litre V6 sings the minute you stroke the throttle.  Well, muted it may be, but what a soundtrack to enjoy if the mood takes you.  Find a sports exhaust and hark back to Metro 6R4 days...

Look at Me

Then there are the cane toad looks!  Hardly handsome but unique.  The new pointy nose is definitely an acquired taste. Within that new look are Xenon lights as standard and fogs lamps in the spoiler.  Renault may have slipped up by not fitting a flexible lip to the base of that spoiler.  Cracked fibreglass could be the result of overeager meetings with speed bumps.

Quite a lot of revamping has gone on in an attempt to tame the wayward Mark One model.  The salient points are that the engine is more powerful (252bhp) thanks to a number of modifications including new camshafts and valves, air filter, intake plenium and injectors to name but a few. 

More pertinent are the 23mm wheelbase increase and 33mm wider track along with a revised rear subframe and altered, strengthened damper mounts to contain the manic beast. 

Handling

I well remember driving an original Renault 5 Turbo2 in pouring rain.  Boy was that a pepperami in corners!  This model by comparison is a pussycat.  However, it will still try and swap ends on wet roundabouts if you apply the power too soon and too suddenly.  All the more appropriate to remember - slow in fast out.

Understeer is present in the dry, countered by progressive oversteer with right foot tickling.  There is no traction control to reign in that rear. 66% of the weight of the car is at the rear which certainly helps traction, but the dark side is there if you want to venture beyond the limits of grip.

Renault Clio V6

You drive this car very much by the seat of your pants and the firm suspension bobbles over bumps.  The ride is firm as you would expect, but good on our poor roads, coping well with potholes and cats eyes. It’s refreshingly involving, marred by an average steering rack giving you 2.8 turns lock to lock.  It could certainly do with a quicker rack.

The brakes lack feel from cold but certainly do the trick when they've got some heat in them.

Enough Power

The Clio V6 looks like its on steroids but 252bhp isn't quite in the mental league. The power delivery isn't explosive, requiring a bit of work with the six speed 'box to deliver the necessary urge when required.

That 'box is a find piece of kit.  It feels as if it would happily take another 50bhp.  Stir it correctly and the Clio V6 will hurtle as requested. Many of the Japanese motors would run rings round the Clio V6 on twisty ‘B’ roads, but will struggle to deliver as involving and enjoyable drive as the Clio offers. 

Renault Clio V6

As you'd expect from a car with a V6 in the boot, luggage space is at a bit of a premium. There is a little space behind that sonorous V6 when you lift tailgate - you might get two slim carrier bags in but that’s really it! Up front things are a bit better.  One overnight bag will fit but make sure that you've packed light! Any coats just fit happily behind the seats in a netted area. 

There are tiny door pockets and a slim glove box. The Alcantara and leather seats are comfy with good adjustment and the driving position is not bad.  Only rake adjustment is available though. 

Inside

Some magazines have critized the interior for not being special enough. 
I’m not so sure it matters really. The car is unique and the driving experience is what dominates. 

Renault Clio V6

Exclusivity costs though, with the Clio V6 weighing in at £27,000. There's still scope for some further honing might to really bring the best out of this car and fully justify that price.

The spec sheet is generous though, giving you air – con and a Thatcham alarm to name but a few items.  And I am glad to say that you don’t have to have Impreza metallic petrol blue.  There is a very discreet gunmetal grey or met maroon, which will suit the car admirably. 

Whilst we're on the subject of costs, drive one with verve everywhere and you may get around 18 mpg.  Restraint will see 23 or so, which is partially down to the 60 kg of extra weight, pushing it to a hefty 1400 kg. 

Despite my gripes I loved the Clio V6. In this world of grey sameness, it's a refreshing injection of madness!

Richard Fiennes © 2004

Thanks to Westward Renault for the loan of the car

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dinkel

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Is this correct?
0-60 in 6,2 s
top speed 160 mph
1/4 mile in 11.4 s

Amazing that Jap hot hatches do not convert to rwd . . . R32 did the right thing awd. Awesome car this Clio.

>>> Edited by dinkel on Wednesday 3rd March 11:09

dinkel

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evocator said:
At around the 27K mark, there are a lot of rally based monsters available. These provide more power, more space, better handling and more tuning potential.

Why anyone would to compromise the 2 rear seats for a mere 250hp is beyond me. . . .


Well, because of the 250 bhp at the rear wheels. As I said competition has fwd. Focus RS, Cupra R, Type R Civic, Alfa 147 V6 . . . Correct me if I'm wrong.

dinkel

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evocator said:
Mitsubishi Evo, Scoob, need I continue? okay the AWD may not be RWD, but for the same money, I'd have one every time.


Driving a fwd, rwd or awd car is very different . . . So, which rwd compares to the Clio V6? Same pricetag . . .

dinkel

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edc said:

dinkel said:

evocator said:
At around the 27K mark, there are a lot of rally based monsters available. These provide more power, more space, better handling and more tuning potential.

Why anyone would to compromise the 2 rear seats for a mere 250hp is beyond me. . . .


Well, because of the 250 bhp at the rear wheels. As I said competition has fwd. Focus RS, Cupra R, Type R Civic, Alfa 147 V6 . . . Correct me if I'm wrong.


I wouldn't even try to compare those. The Cupra R is almost £10k cheaper and has 5 doors.


After reading the above the Clio needs a bit more pep for the same price?! Turbo it?
Put in .

www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/Gallery2/Medium/espaceF1.html

dinkel

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Thursday 4th March 2004
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This Clio V6 is not a 'how-do-I-spend-my-money-in-a-wise-way' car. It's a drivers car in the league of S2000, Beemers Z and Lotus Elise. The TTs and 350zs are fast but also bling (who's gonna sit in the back?). And, mind the looks, the Evo-Scooby-Skyline brigade are the cars to take the kids to school, shop and then piss a Boxter off on the way back. The hot hatch Cupra, TypeR, R32 can do the same (not) for a few euros less.
So for practical reasons you won't buy the Clio V6. But next to the daily Laguna estate it seems a good choice . . . Does the track-version have 400 bhp? Enough potenza this thingy. Next: Renault Megane with a v8 or a turbo-ed v6?

stringer_m said:
( . . .) but who said buying a car was a calculated decision. I know that I have brought all of my cars with my heart i.e. an emotional response and this is somehing that the Clio provokes in some.


Well said.

>> Edited by dinkel on Thursday 4th March 08:35