Ecclestone trial date set
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"It is remarkable that he had been indicted as Sylt, in Pitpass.com, who is normally so careful to give balanced reports, said that this was very unlikely, almost impossible was the impression I got.
He probably won't get punished as such. He might get a sort of fine, rather pay compensation, but he won't go inside, as you say. "
I don't know what the situation is in Germany, but in this country, would they not have to surrender themselves to the court? When he arrives at court, would he not be taken into custody?
this is not a civil action like the UK trial. This is in a whole different league.
I have no knowledge of the German legal system. I would certainly like to get some from someone who actually knows what they are talking about!
will he get bail? He would certainly be considered a flight risk (he has his own private jet for a start!!!).
David, you mention that he will probably take a plea deal. Its my understanding that this happens in the movies allot more than real life. But I have no idea about Germany. Do you have any guidance on the likelihood of that happening?
Chris Sylt's silence today has been most audible! ��
again, this is pure speculation, but I was under the impression that in Germany the giving of the bribe was a crime of the same order as receiving one. I would expect any sentence to be of a similar order to Gribkowsky's.
on a slightly different subject... The media have reported that he will still be in charge of the day to day running of F1.
The trial will make F1 a very touchy subject for investors. I bet there are allot of executives speaking in hushed tones in the corridors of Mercedes HQ.
This trial would make F1 a complete no-go for Japanese companies.
let us not forget the length of time the prosecutors have been preparing their case. They wouldn't go ahead with the trial unless they were pretty confident.
I know this is a minority view, but I fully expect him to see the inside of a cell. Even if its just for a few hours.
peter
He probably won't get punished as such. He might get a sort of fine, rather pay compensation, but he won't go inside, as you say. "
I don't know what the situation is in Germany, but in this country, would they not have to surrender themselves to the court? When he arrives at court, would he not be taken into custody?
this is not a civil action like the UK trial. This is in a whole different league.
I have no knowledge of the German legal system. I would certainly like to get some from someone who actually knows what they are talking about!
will he get bail? He would certainly be considered a flight risk (he has his own private jet for a start!!!).
David, you mention that he will probably take a plea deal. Its my understanding that this happens in the movies allot more than real life. But I have no idea about Germany. Do you have any guidance on the likelihood of that happening?
Chris Sylt's silence today has been most audible! ��
again, this is pure speculation, but I was under the impression that in Germany the giving of the bribe was a crime of the same order as receiving one. I would expect any sentence to be of a similar order to Gribkowsky's.
on a slightly different subject... The media have reported that he will still be in charge of the day to day running of F1.
The trial will make F1 a very touchy subject for investors. I bet there are allot of executives speaking in hushed tones in the corridors of Mercedes HQ.
This trial would make F1 a complete no-go for Japanese companies.
let us not forget the length of time the prosecutors have been preparing their case. They wouldn't go ahead with the trial unless they were pretty confident.
I know this is a minority view, but I fully expect him to see the inside of a cell. Even if its just for a few hours.
peter
Derek Smith said:
It would appear that in Germany it is extremely unlikely to imprison someone of Ecclestone's age so any penalty is likely to be financial. It is possible for a negotiated settlement in the sense that the defence and prosecution get together to discuss the possible penalty. If we promise to fine you X then will you plead sort of thing.
I'm not sure I would read too much in the time that it took to bring the prosecution. If the evidence is overwhelming then the case is quick and easy to prepare. I've got the feeling, backed up by nothing other than guesses, that they waited until they saw Ecclestone's behaviour in his current civil case.
Once evidence is presented in the case I can see companies, big international companies, will have to come to a conclusion as to whether they can deal with someone who has been shown to be tainted. There are other aspects as well. Ecclestone was hardly impressive on a photo opportunity. He's also come out with some very odd statements of late.
It will be an interesting one. Punishment has to hurt. If he gets a fine he will walk out of the court, shrug his shoulders and carry on as normal. I'm not sure I would read too much in the time that it took to bring the prosecution. If the evidence is overwhelming then the case is quick and easy to prepare. I've got the feeling, backed up by nothing other than guesses, that they waited until they saw Ecclestone's behaviour in his current civil case.
Once evidence is presented in the case I can see companies, big international companies, will have to come to a conclusion as to whether they can deal with someone who has been shown to be tainted. There are other aspects as well. Ecclestone was hardly impressive on a photo opportunity. He's also come out with some very odd statements of late.
Again I dont know how it works in Germany, But in the UK a fine is calculated as a proportion of your income. this frankly would be compleatly irellavent for Ecclestone.
David, your point about the ammount of time it has taken to prepoare the case is a good one. I hadnt thought of it like that.
Anyway. it will be an interesting case. But I seriously wish we could get an expert on germal law. we need a Gary Hartstein of the criminal world!
Peter
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