is F1 on its knees

[moanthebairns]

I'm sat watching the highlights of the F1 and I have to say this is one of the most boring races I have ever watched.

Now I love F1 I always watch every race even if it isn't live but this year I have nil interest. It's becoming a farce.

Some of the problems with it

Roseberg can't put up a fight Hamilton wins it with ease.

The over takes are mainly done using drs

The racing is st.

There is too many st circuits in countries with little interest

The new regs and lack of testing have killed it.

You have world champions fighting for 14th.

There is that little going on we are now watching the fights for 14th.

Big names have nil sponsorship it's actually embarrassing looking now.

Half the field lapped.

There is no flat out racing

The biggest cheer is a car getting wheeled off.

It's just dire this season. I know a lot love it on here and it's a bit stupid asking in here. But I can't be the only one who just doesn't care this season so far.

[moanthebairns]

The problem is that list was compiled in two minutes whilst on the phone bored.

If I sat down at the PC and thought about it I could write a list of what's wrong with it Aslong as my arm.

There is always going to be classics and rubbish races. But it's just crippling dire at the moment. How can a team like McLaren not have sponsors. It speaks louder than I will on here about how highly it's regarded these days.

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CrgT16 said:

I don't understand the amazement to the way F1 races happen... This is nothing new!!!!

If you want to watch proper races then look at spec series like Indy, NASCAR, etc, MotoGP, GP2, you will see more racing there.

F1 has, for decades, been about the technology and its developments, not about pure racing. With a few expections the F1 Champioships where all won by the best car, not necessarily the best driver... So where is the racing there?

In my view what is unfortunate is not the quality of the racing which in fact has improved a little bit I. The past few years albeit in an artificial way... The unfortunate is that no longer F1 is a platform for manufacturers to bring crazy engines, everything is so strict and rules so rigid that development cost is just unsustainable.

Dominance in F1 is the norm.... Schumacher with Ferrari? Vettel in RBR? The McLaren of Prost and Senna? To name the most obvious... Yes the drivers where excellent too but the car still dictated the end result... To a point that in one season Eddie Irvine was almost in a position to win the championship when Schumacher broke his leg!!

So really nothing new... What's the moan about?

I blame aero on the F1 lack of interest.... Less close racing perhaps.... Bring back refuelling so we can see more strategy, more qualifying laps in the race, cars going as fast as possible....

Today's race was actually exciting in the mid field battles and some excellent new generation of drivers are great, Max for example...

F1 may be alienating some old fans, because they have not moved with the times, but the future is more hi tech, they should make it easier on the power unit for other manufacturers to be interested but they are too complex these days...

I don't think it is dead but I do think it has evolved.... More Playstation, less Marlboro man...for example changing braking bias for every corner, adjusting engine modes, etc, etc on the go... In Senna days it was more about the driving, gear change, the steering wheel was a steering wheel not a game controller, perhaps that made the driving more pure but make no mistake there was also dominance in that era and the car played an huge role as well!

wtf are you talking about. You could say the same with the moto gp and the tc maps they now use due to the sheer power of the bikes. But no one cares if it's head to head racing.

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mattikake said:

Sounds like you have forgotten what F1 is about.

F1 is about the fastest drivers in the world, racing the fastest track cars in the world, employing the latest technological ideas. It's not on it's knees. It's standing as tall as it ever has. The entertainment value is as a spectacle of the pinnacle of driver and design talent. It's not meant to be entertaining to watch as a racing exercise. It never has.

moanthebairns said:

I'm sat watching the highlights of the F1 and I have to say this is one of the most boring races I have ever watched. that's the nature of sporting entertainment without engineered entertainment handicaps. You often get boring events in any sport - football to boxing. That's part of what makes the exciting matches/races/battles/fights, exciting. - You only like the summer because there is a winter etc.

Now I love F1 I always watch every race even if it isn't live but this year I have nil interest. It's becoming a farce.

Some of the problems with it

Roseberg can't put up a fight Hamilton wins it with ease. great. We're getting to see how good Hamilton is. This is mostly all history will remember.

The over takes are mainly done using drs -from the start of F1, overtaking was mostly about gentlemen moving over. Now we get wheel banging and shortcuts off track and yet no-one dies (touches a lot of wood)

The racing is st. from the start, good racing was irrelevant. Only winning matters, as in any TOP sport (Yes, implies all other formulae are inferior for this singular reason. Indeed, lesser formula often have to engineer fake action in order to attract fans, but those who want to see the best, watch F1).

The new regs and lack of testing have killed it. Too much testing killed it. Forgotten Schumacher and Ferrari? - the ONLY period in the entirety of F1 history where the viewing figures actually declined

You have world champions fighting for 14th. used to happen a lot. Nothing new

There is that little going on we are now watching the fights for 14th. Seems more like a triumph of modern TV broadcasting to me

Big names have nil sponsorship it's actually embarrassing looking now. that's how it was from the start

Half the field lapped. often how is was from the start

There is no flat out racing often how is was from the start

The biggest cheer is a car getting wheeled off.

It's just dire this season. I know a lot love it on here and it's a bit stupid asking in here. But I can't be the only one who just doesn't care this season so far. stop watching it then, you won't affect the ever-increasing viewing figures, nor have an impact on what F1 is

My God there is just so much wrong with the above. I don't want to insult you, and I get the feeling you love the sport but open your eyes.

1) no handicaps - wtf is DRS then? Motorsport is meant to be exciting what planet do you live on.
2) or just how pish Roseberg is, lets remember he's a number two driver.
3) just how far back are you going, I mean come on.
4) so why are the viewing figures slumping so much if people want to watch the best with f1
5) ah the MS and Ferrari debate, firstly figures are slumping hugely just now so your wrong again. And your basically giving my fag paper argument and going to the extreme. No test = st, too much testing = st, a half way point? surely to God.
6) when are you referring to? every race?
7) eh ok then, or maybe because there was racing at the front you never saw it. Hard to tell, actually no its not. Brundle used to go on for years that teams at the back were fighting every corner but never got any coverage as there was racing going on at the front.
8) seriously, you want to harp back to black and white races, with guys smoking in the pits showing up after their day job, jesus Christ what a weak argument. To not have a McLaren stickered up to the hill shows how "on its knees" F1 is. It would have been unthinkable 5-10 years ago. Wake up.
9) ok this has happened a bit but not up to third in some cases.
10) OMG, here we go again. Does that mean its not broken. People are waking up and tuning in elsewhere. F1 has to change. Just because its always been like this doesn't mean it has to continue. The problem before was F1 was the only motorsport to watch because it was the only real televised race to show week in week out. Now you can get motorsport 24/7 almost and its hurting F1. The move to sky is effecting the figures.
11) http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/14/as...
ever increasing viewing figures, what are you on?

[moanthebairns]

I watch Scottish football weekly, no one needs to tell me how boring sport can be. But yesterday took it to new levels, I was on my phone for most of it and that was just the highlights.

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Lost soul said:

moanthebairns said:

The over takes are mainly done using drs

The racing is st.

I saw plenty of scrapping going on yesterday , did we watch the same race

What for nil points.

No spoilers about this week moto gp but compare it with last week's to any F1 race. I normally watch F1 then moto gp when I get in the difference is unreal.

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DJRC said:

Disastrous said:

DJRC said:

The sooner all the casual fans or those who GP racing started with Senna get bored and bugger off the better. I would love F1 to be half as popular. Go back to being elitist, niche and none tosserish again.

Senna's first race was in 1984. How on earth can you complain that people who have been following a sport for over 30 years are casual fans?

Ridiculous premise.

Because 30yrs ago is yesterday in GP history. That was precisely my point.

what a fud.

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DJRC said:

RYH64E said:

DJRC said:

The sooner all the casual fans or those who GP racing started with Senna get bored and bugger off the better. I would love F1 to be half as popular. Go back to being elitist, niche and none tosserish again.

F1 isn't a hobby it's a business, a business that relies upon worldwide viewing figures to sell sponsorship, advertising, and increasingly as a marketing exercise to sell road cars. I can't see sponsors shelling out big bucks for a tiny and declining audience of anoraks who get all excited over who's running the optimum tyre strategy, or who's best at lift and coast. You may want to see an elitist, niche fanbase, but that doesn't pay the bills.

Ultimately, regardless of what you or I may think of modern day F1 (and I really don't like it), if it doesn't put bums on seats it's heading for failure. When there's not enough support in Germany for a home GP to be viable, and that at a time when Mercedes are dominating the sport, you have to ask what's next? Another Tilke track in some backwater dictatorship prepared to pay top dollar for a race no-one else wants?

You miss my point 64. If the manufacturers leave then it will evolve into something else. I care nothing if they are involved or not. I care nothing if a particular team or drive is involved or not. The point is that this racing will always exist because some blokes somewhere want to race as fast as possible. I don't care if it's watched by just me, Eric, Derek, Chevron and our dogs or if it's watched by the rest of you. I don't care if the tracks are empty. I care nothing about the spectacle of it per se. That this racing is the fastest formula will always be enough to guarantee there will be blokes competing and it will retain a fascination for me.

Blokes race. Folks want to be the fastest. That will never change nor will my fascination with it.

you really are a fud of the highest order.

So if it died a death how would you watch it, go to see one race a year at one corner on one track.

the best racing in the world, with the best drivers, actually wait, you mainly have to pay for a drive or bring money in. The business model is broken, I can see it falling on its arse in a few years when sky and other companies ditch it as its not lucrative anymore. it wont die but it will be a shadow of its former self unless they act now.

[moanthebairns]

I thought it was an ok race yesterday, lots going on a bit more interesting than the last couple.

However, I watched it after the Moto GP, it just doesn't compare at the moment. Its not even in the same league.

[moanthebairns]

I'd like to see the introducing of gravel traps to spark it up a bit. Actually punish the drivers. It's not a track day. You shouldn't go off only loosing a tenth or two.

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yes bring back SEGA, when brands actually thought for coverage like that.

Who the fk cares about flight ethiads