The Official 2015 Canadian Grand Prix thread **SPOILERS**

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Montreal, 5-7 June
Race starts at 19:00 BST
Coverage is on the BBC

Looks like a good attendance as ever:
http://tickets.formula1.com/en/3215-canada-fom/

Weather - too early to tell


What will we see?

A return towards the front for Williams?
Looks like a Merc/Ferrari circuit?

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vonuber said:

Mercs to lap up to 5th place.

Not so sure, with Williams and Ferrari in play, I think Sauber may be more on form, and maybe Lotus, so maybe lap up to the top 10?

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Dry:
1 / HAM
2 / ROS
3 / VET

Wet:
1 / VET
2 / ROS
3 / HAM

Just a guess.

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IainT said:

Both great points. Not sure how easy Ferrari will be on their rear tyres if they have the mooted 40-60 hp gain from the engine upgrades though.

But it isn't about the power - it's about how it is applied, throttle response, etc. Increased HP doesn't necessarily equate to increased tyre wear.

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Massa, whilst I like him as a driver and bit of a cheeky chappy, had quite the reputation as a younger driver... "crash bandicoot" was my nickname for him...

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Ted is a great guy and has some great stories, but many of them are not suitable for broadcast as i learned.

He spent a fun 30 mins chatting to British fans in the GA area at the Italian GP, lovely guy, didn't have to stop but he is passionate about F1 and makes it accessible, which is important.

Is he the most technical? No. But that would be dull and we have forums for that. Does he present things in a reasonable way to average fan (and I stress average, which includes my 70 year old mum)? Probably. Nuances are for PH

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hairyben said:

Haha, max laying the smack on massa during the press conference, that kids got the minerals

He does seem to be a pretty rounded racer so far. Reminds me of Massa/Irvine in a way, only better.

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em177 said:

Always depressing to see the lap record is from 2004. Progress?

I don't recall the racing being great with the V10s. Speed is not everything. We've have some great racing years since; down to the wire, last race battles so I don't find it that depressing. There is a limit to speed.

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VolvoT5 said:

em177 said:

So how did you watch it?

Muted!

Could you not just have put on 5 live and heard their commentary?

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DBSV8 said:

what time is the race GMT ?

and any live feed web sites , stuck in Dubai and terrestrial tv not showing race , BBCIplayer wont work out here either

thanks

Do you have a work VPN that connects back to the UK?

If not then Tunnelbear is cheap and easy to configure.

Or http://cricfree.sx/sky-sports-f1-live-stream-1 is poor quality but free.

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Wasn't a great wheel to wheel race, though there were some good overtakes. Strategy calls were where the races were unfolding, always hard to follow.

Not the best Canadian but nor the worst; I still enjoyed it and watched all of it.

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JonRB said:

And the austerity measures on fuel and tyres are equally to blame as they force the "lift & coast" and "only drive at 80%" situation that has already been mentioned by others.

Does anyone know how much additional fuel would be negate the need for lift and coast at the current engine output?

i.e. no more power, no change to fuel flow, but more fuel available, so that we reduce the constraining factors a little

I know each track varies, but would 10kg make the difference? 20? 30?

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moanthebairns said:

where can you find specific lap times.

SO If I wanted to know the lap time on the 6th lap or 26th where would these be.

The live data in the race is free, but I think you need to pay for the full data sets:

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/su...

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The Crack Fox said:

The booze will buckets of partially fermented hops "we're working hard of making it into beer", the food will be sh!tting livestock wandering around "we're working hard on making it into food", the venue will be a building plot "we're working hard on turning it into a building" and the music will be a knackered tambourine and a broken piano "we're working hard on turning it into music". JB will be sulking sat on a log "the team are working hard to turn it into garden furniture", Alonso will be asking anyone who wil listen to him "ees anyone ere a contract lawyer? I need elp to get out of thees sheet" and Ron will be at home in his expensive glass factory, he didn't get his email invitation because the organizer was waiting for a fresh delivery of pixels from Japan.

I hope that McHonda do get it fixed as we want to see good racing, but that did make me chuckle...

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JonRB said:

This is you

<dilbert>

That didn't take you long!!!

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Golden eras are generally a myth through rose tinted glasses.

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moanthebairns said:

The removal of run off zones.

If I go to most UK circuits on a trackday and muck up I'm in the kitty litter and om my arse.

Why Are top drivers exempt from this. The track limits should be the track. If you go plowing into the scenery thats tough luck.

Kitty litter has it's limits, especially at higher speeds.

And... because it isn't the 1970s/80s any more and the viewing public for what is now a mass market sport will not stand for seeing multiple deaths in a season.

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RichB said:

Allow as many manufacturer's cars to race as they want - what's wrong with 3 or 4 Ferraris?

Ask Indycar.

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I think it would be interesting to look at years when we have had seasons that have run down to the last or penultimate race, had multiple winners and analyse some of the common factors that created that racing?

2007 (3)
2008 (2)
2009 (3?)
2010 (4?)
2012 (2)

(number of drivers that could have technically won the championship going into final race)

We had a whole bunch of years with a close finish and relative rule stability, with a final race when 2,3 or 4 drivers could have won it, and many races in those seasons stick in my mind as absolute classics.

I guess it depends what we mean by "racing"

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swisstoni said:

RichB said:

People forget that there were often some boring processions in the old days as well.

Quite.

And many back markers who had made it through pre-qualifying being lapped many, many times.
And the DNFs due to reliability.
etc

Oh, and deaths. It was not a glorious sport even in the mythical golden eras. We don't want to see our heroes die on TV as so often happened in the "golden eras"