Hamilton disses Schumacher

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seems a silly thing to say, and somewhat disrespectful

http://web.de/magazine/sport/formel-1/lewis-hamilt...

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deadslow said:

OP didn't say he said anything wrong, just seems disrespectful/daft when MS is unable to respond due to life threatening illness.

+1

lacks class and humility.

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Scuffers said:

would it make a difference if he was dead?

how does his current situation change what he did back then?

Seems Hamilton's ego has grown bigger than Chris Evans'

I don't recall Schumacher dissing Prost over his political games in winning races, he just got on with his job.
Schumacher actually lived in the old house at Fiorano circuit, testing and developing every day and night when not away at actual races.
That's why he and his car were so damn fast.

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Scuffers said:

so, nothing to do with illegal parts, flexible floors, questionable tolerances, etc etc etc?

quite apart from having a team-mate contracted to give way on demand and the FIA as backup in-case anybody questioned your car?

Barcelona 1996

"Watching the Ferrari, I don't think the car was that brilliant. It looked like it was on ice. The guy is just something else. Four seconds a lap quicker than we were." - James Robinson, Williams engineer

"It was not a race. It was a demonstration of brilliance. The man is in a class of his own; there's no one in the world anywhere near him." - Stirling Moss

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Scuffers said:

so, nothing to do with illegal parts, flexible floors, questionable tolerances, etc etc etc?

quite apart from having a team-mate contracted to give way on demand and the FIA as backup in-case anybody questioned your car?

every single F1 team has breached regulations at some point. That's the nature of pushing the edge for competitive gain.

As for the truth about team-mates, you should have a chat with Eddie Irvine at some point

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Scuffers said:

lol!

http://patronisef1.com/wordpress/features/in-memor...

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/red-bull-racing-is-l...

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Scuffers said:

difference is one is taking the piss out the rules (RB), Ferrari blatantly cheat, then get the FIA to whitewash it.

Bernie and Max did what they did. Nobody brainwashed them.
All F1 teams cheat and take the piss. How the FIA deal with that is up to them.

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37chevy said:

Prost cheated, got races finished early at monoco because he was going to lose and got Senna DQ at Japan
Vettel threw his dummy out when Webber was beating him and ran him off the track
Alonso hated Hamilton beating him
Schumacher wouldn't race with teammates of the same ability
Senna took out Prost
Mansell moaned a lot

All drivers and world champions are 'flawed' that's what makes them world champions, the utter desire to win, and tread on anyone that gets in your way! I don't know of any champion in f1 that hasn't had problems along the way, even button had his moments with Williams, Benetton and Honda.....and he's considered a saint on piston heads!

Edited by 37chevy on Friday 6th November 17:08

^^this^^
although with Hakkinen possibly being the exception, but I still believe in identical cars Schumacher would've been quicker over a race distance

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deadslow said:

Yes, but I doubt you'd describe any of them out of the car as a fking clown. That's the difference we're talking about here.

if any of them behaved like a clown or bimbo - then yes, the public would've reacted the same.

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VolvoT5 said:

Wow, so now he is claiming he was misquoted... I wonder if he realises the video clip is doing the rounds on social media.... everyone can hear what he said for themselves.

+44
Not only does he speak like a bimbo - he lies too

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m444ttb said:

Get a grip chaps. It's a hat. One hiding a dubious hairstyle at that. Had anyone checked if he has Tweeted a photo wearing a poppy today?

If he's proudly British, let's hope he WAS wearing a poppy. Mind you, his mid-Atlantic accent isn't too convincing

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amgmcqueen said:

Hamilton's opinion is much like his fashion sense - completely irrelevant.

When and why did he turn into a fking weirdo? Looking back at races from 07/08 he just seemed like a normal bloke you could have a drink and a laugh with. Now he seems to think he's Jay Z's secret love child.
I can only imagine he has a ridiculous amount of hangers-on and yes men surrounding him which has caused his ego to swell so much, he can no longer remove his head from his own arse!

One last opinion I may aswell voice is, I can never respect Hamilton. The reason being is every other WCD has started their F1 career in a midfield/back of the grid team. They have had to prove themselves and fight their way into a better car/team. Sometimes this takes years and years for even the best drivers to achieve. The most frustrating thing about Hamilton is that he just walked straight into the best team/car at the top of the grid and to this day, still doesn't realise and acknowledge how lucky he has been!

I would say out of all the past WCD, he has had the most help/easiest ride. His achievements pale in comparison to Schumachers.

+44
Even that Ferrari was a dog when Schumacher joined the team. Took plenty of work and patience in getting it up the grid.

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37chevy said:

teammates moving over for him

a Guinness with Eddie Irvine would shine new light onto your presumption

talking of which, we've just bumped up outside the Punch Bowl, off for a pint

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37chevy said:

I'm guessing a drink with Rubens would shine a light onto the subject too, and a drink with jos would shine a light onto traction control at hockenheim too!

certainly, and it's worth having a Marker's Mark with ex-team mate Brundle too. He will illuminate with insight such as;

“We saw Michael Schumacher yesterday on his best qualifying lap adjusting the brake balance in the middle of that corner - unbelievable. I talked to a few drivers about that and they could not believe he had enough command over the car to be able to do that.”

When you listen to insight from Brundle, Irvine, Moss et al, they rate Schumacher in a league of his own.

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It seems even with the biased UK media coverage, especially from the BBC, Hamilton's character and conduct remains somewhat Marmite for the viewing public. On track let's hope for closer and more sustained battles next season.

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37chevy said:

But isn't that a good thing? Itmachine if you had a grid full of rosbergs or buttons, while I'm sure it would be very gentlemanly or easy for the PR guys, everything would be monochrome and boring, you need fans to be one one side or the other, it's what makes sport great. Yup Hamilton isn't everyone's cup of tea but neither was Schumacher, Prost, Senna etc etc....can you imagine the sport without those characters?

for sure. He does not seem to be the smartest driver on the grid ala Prost, Senna, Schumacher, but still gets results. Personally I'd like to see a grid full of Verstappen's and Alonso's.

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angrymoby said:

So no retraction then, just another sly dig- this time about intelligence ...even though he's beaten his supposedly much smarter (speaks 5 languages!) team mate the last 3 seasons on the trot.

So is Hamilton SO talented that he doesn't need to be smart, or Rosberg not as smart as everyone thinks or Rosberg just not that taleneted? take your pick.

the sly dig was here.

http://web.de/magazine/sport/formel-1/lewis-hamilt...

and now Hamilton is asking "Please do not believe all that you read". Seems to have slipped his mind there was a TV camera present.

The reliability of Rosberg's car in 2015 for DNF's was pretty bad too.

Edited by Bo_apex on Tuesday 10th November 10:58

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Hamilton should just let his driving do the talking. Having sly digs at former champions shows a lack of humility.

The "context" is in his answer, it's very straightforward. It's understandable the MS fan club felt upset.

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37chevy said:

NO there is no context in his answer, the context comes from when you realise what the question and full answer is! He wasn't having a sly dig at all, the Italian interviewer said they thought Hamilton was more like Schumacher than Senna, Hamilton replied no, because he hasn't won championships the way Michael did....read into that what you will but it could mean a multitude of things! And which ever way you look at it, he's right, he hasn't won championships like Schumacher has

Yes, context is often on the interviewees side too. Politicians do it.
Context always crops up at our weekly editorial and compliance meetings.

So Hamilton's hero Senna didn't crash into others to win ?

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37chevy said:

Yes he did, just like vettel and many other drivers have, but stop changing the subject......the question was about Michael and he correctly answered he hadn't won championships like him....it's plebs like yourself that have blown things way out of proportion and jumped to conclusions with 8 seconds of a video clip without engaging your brain cell

Next thing you will do is say Hamilton is desecrating the memory of Senna because he's modelled his life around him....

Let's see when the same question is popped, about whether LH thinks he's won in a similar manner to Senna.

The racing was much more exciting in Senna's day - too many rules now.