RE: Detroit show: Porsche 911 Cabriolet
Tuesday 10th January 2012
You might feel as if you've had your fill of 991-generation 911s over the past couple of months, but Porsche isn't finished yet - and it's used the Detroit show to mark the world motor show premiere of the new 911 Cabrio.
Does my bum look big as this cabrio?It's all pretty much as you'd expect, really, but the impressively tight-looking roof is more secure, more refined and (says Porsche) than ever. This is courtesy of rigid panels within the fabric structure that make the new roof similar in concept (though lighter) than a glass or metal folding hard top.
Detroit show: Porsche 911 Cabriolet
Porsche 911 Cabrio officially unveiled at Detroit show
Does my bum look big as this cabrio?
The roof can also be raised or lowered at speeds of up to 31mph. Prices start at £79,947 for the Carrera Cabriolet and a burly £89,740 for the S version. Engines and power outputs are the same as the coupe, so the 3.4-litre and 3.8-litre get 350hp and 400hp respectively. That's enough for the Carrera to hit 62mph in 5.0 seconds (4.8 seconds with the PDK and 4.6 seconds with the optional Sport Chrono) and for the S to nail 62mph in 4.7 seconds with the seven-speed manual (4.3 seconds with the PDK Sport Chrono).
The new 911 Cab goes on sale in the UK in March
Discussion
MRCC said:
I completely accept the comments about Porsche moving on and away from the shackles of the 911, but if a 911 is your bag, I have to say I think the 991 is the best looking one ever and that includes the glorious 993 too.
Regards,
Mr. C C.
I agree. If you HAVE to have one, then the current 991 is the best looking 911 for the past 20 or so years.Regards,
Mr. C C.
But saying that is like deciding between which sexually transmitted disease you'd rather have. A bit of the clap, or full blown Aids!
disco1 said:
Skater12 said:
BREAKING NEWS !!!
Porsche in complete new car shocker!
ooops, no, that hasnt happened.
Come on Porsche, Iknow it's a tried and tested style, but well into the 21st century now. Isnt it time you thought a bit outside of your clinically styled box?
BREAKING NEWSPorsche in complete new car shocker!
ooops, no, that hasnt happened.
Come on Porsche, Iknow it's a tried and tested style, but well into the 21st century now. Isnt it time you thought a bit outside of your clinically styled box?
Porsche hater PH'er in Porsche design critique shocker!
It wouldn't be a 911 unless it actually looked like a 911 now would it????
For a brand new car, i'd have thought they could tweak the design a little more, and maybe be very un-germanic by being a little daring.
It's not even like porsche has much to lose, given that emerging markets in the middle east and asia will be huge for this new car regardless of how it would look. Chinese businessmen etc would buy a 911 for the badge alone.
SWoll said:
Skater12 said:
MRCC said:
I completely accept the comments about Porsche moving on and away from the shackles of the 911, but if a 911 is your bag, I have to say I think the 991 is the best looking one ever and that includes the glorious 993 too.
Regards,
Mr. C C.
I agree. If you HAVE to have one, then the current 991 is the best looking 911 for the past 20 or so years.Regards,
Mr. C C.
But saying that is like deciding between which sexually transmitted disease you'd rather have. A bit of the clap, or full blown Aids!
Do you form any of your own opinions or does JC provide them all for you?Do we really have to have this same discussion everytime there is a new post about the 911, especially when no-one has anything original to say?
And you're right of course, they really are dreadful cars aren't they? Must be why they sell so badly and get such poor reviews from the motoring press.....
I'd be very shocked if the next 911 dosnt look remarkably similar again.
Dont get me wrong, I'd love to own one, but for the money i'd go for an older well looked after car, because the new one asthetically dosnt justify spending more.
On your comments about JC, i dont quote anyone, Jeremy Clarkson, Jesus Christ, Jackie Chan or otherwise.
And the reason we cant come up with an original comment about this car, is because the same things were said about the last "new" 911 launch, and the one before that.
Garlick said:
If the next 911 broke with tradition and looked all new, completely different, people would be in uproar. Despite this we still get the 'looks the same as the old one' comments.
They can't win methinks.
At present they seem to visually change very little, whilst managing to physically change every part.
pistonpie said:
Skater12 said:
It's not even like porsche has much to lose, given that emerging markets in the middle east and asia will be huge for this new car regardless of how it would look. Chinese businessmen etc would buy a 911 for the badge alone.
your point being...? I personally think it looks great, one of the best looking 911s yetI do like the way it looks, I do like the 911 shape, I do like Porsche.
I am however getting bored of the generic design.
One of the biggest names in the motoring world, with a Huge budget, and technical prowess, but they seem to lack imagination.
I agree, it is a formula that has worked and will continue to work for them, but surely they can start building cars that make people say "wow, that looks awesome", rather than "that's quite nice looking".
SWoll said:
Skater12 said:
On your comments about JC, i dont quote anyone, Jeremy Clarkson, Jesus Christ, Jackie Chan or otherwise.
Your STD line was a direct quote from Mr Clarkson I believe, as I'm sure you are aware.Actually no, I dont pay that much attention to what Mr Clarkson says, and certainly wouldnt want to quote him.
Skater12 said:
Dont get me wrong, I'd love to own one, but for the money i'd go for an older well looked after car, because the new one asthetically dosnt justify spending more.
The newer one doesn't have to justify spending more with it's aesthetics, that's never been what the 911 is about. I would be willing to guarantee it justifies itself in the way it drives etc. which is far more important.Regardless of the technical advances of this model, I'm just bored of the appearance, that's my whole, and only point.
Skater12 said:
And the reason we cant come up with an original comment about this car, is because the same things were said about the last "new" 911 launch, and the one before that.
If you are aware that the topic of the 911's styling has been discussed at length time and time again on PH then why trot out the same tired old comments? We all know it hasn't changed much in the way it looks, that's the whole point of the 911. Evolution rather than revolution. It's seems to have worked very well for Porsche for the last 50 years or so.Agoogy said:
Skater12 said:
pistonpie said:
Skater12 said:
It's not even like porsche has much to lose, given that emerging markets in the middle east and asia will be huge for this new car regardless of how it would look. Chinese businessmen etc would buy a 911 for the badge alone.
your point being...? I personally think it looks great, one of the best looking 911s yetI do like the way it looks, I do like the 911 shape, I do like Porsche.
I am however getting bored of the generic design.
One of the biggest names in the motoring world, with a Huge budget, and technical prowess, but they seem to lack imagination.
I agree, it is a formula that has worked and will continue to work for them, but surely they can start building cars that make people say "wow, that looks awesome", rather than "that's quite nice looking".
The Panamera is just a big 4 door 911, and the Cayenne is too much like a VW Toe-rag with Porsche lights and grill etc bolted on.
I'd like to see Porsche do what Aston Martin did when the introduced the DB9, by orrering a new direction in design.
Ferrari have done it more recently, with the 458, the 599 and the FF all sharing Family looks, while being up to date and still "veru Ferrari".
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