Surprisingly quick cars
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its not always possible to ring the cars neck (when missus is in car), so just use a nice dollop of torque instead....far less incriminatingLuS1fer said:
A Nissan Leaf.
He was driving it with no eye to economy, obviously, but I was surprised how hard I had to press my Mk 6 Fiesta ST to keep pace from a standing start where, I am sure, electric cars excel.
they probably had to park up round the corner and charge it for 8hrs after though!He was driving it with no eye to economy, obviously, but I was surprised how hard I had to press my Mk 6 Fiesta ST to keep pace from a standing start where, I am sure, electric cars excel.
cptsideways said:
My favourite though is the RR Ghost, waft up ever so gracefully at a set of lights, discreetly press the low button on the stalk, no-one ever expects to get smoked by one as the Wilton gets a prod 
they even give some supecars a run for their money off the line & not a lot has the pace to match one past the UK limit either.
A real surprise is though is any MB car with the 350 cdi badge, they have some real pace for a smoker
+1 they even give some supecars a run for their money off the line & not a lot has the pace to match one past the UK limit either.A real surprise is though is any MB car with the 350 cdi badge, they have some real pace for a smoker
I've been in an E350 and it pulled like a train - lovely car
Howard- said:
Reading through this thread, if you can't get away from an Avensis in a Mazda 3 MPS or a 320D in a 350Z, I'd suggest you learn how to drive your cars a bit more properly!
I think it depends on the context though...from 50-80mph on the motorway there isn't much in it, but if playing on a country lane i'd agree.Howard- said:
I wouldn't have been at all surprised in that scenario, either! My car has feck all go at 50mph in 6th, but it'll cruise nicely. If I want to hound diesel repmobiles I'll be in 2nd/3rd/4th, as expected. This situation doesn't warrant calling a diesel Avensis "surprisingly quick", I'm afraid.
I stand by my comment as once the speed picked up he was still there, and that surprised me. If it had been a Golf with GTD on the front or a BMW, I wouldn't have been quite so 'surprised'.Howard- said:
It's unsurprising because his engine will have been sitting probably in its peak power band, and yours wouldn't. Where's the peak power in a 3 MPS? Around 6,000rpm at a guess? It'd have been exactly the same amount of "surprise" whether it had a Toyota, Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Volkswagen badge, since most of their cars are available with ~180bhp diesels.
This is why diesels get so blown out of proportion when it comes to their performance. Yeah if you floor it in the peak torque band you're going to have more pickup than if you floor a car with much, much more power that is totally outside of its torque/power band. That's why you have a gearbox
The MPS picks up well from low revs, so you can usually rely on just planting your right foot and off it goes. Plus its not really worth ringing it neck as it starts to run out of puff once you pass 5,000rpm. I understand what people are saying about dropping down a couple of cogs etc, but in most instances i would have dropped the following car quite easily, but this guy just stayed there longer than I expected.This is why diesels get so blown out of proportion when it comes to their performance. Yeah if you floor it in the peak torque band you're going to have more pickup than if you floor a car with much, much more power that is totally outside of its torque/power band. That's why you have a gearbox
aka_kerrly said:
1.0 12v Corsa really couldn't get to more than 50 having gone flat out through 2nd, 3rd and 4th off down the ramp!
Had one of these as a hire car recently, and totally agree...it's slow bordering on the dangerous if used for anything other than town driving. Re. the Avensis, i was just surprised at how it clung on longer than expected.....made a bit more sense once i'd looked up the tech spec after.MiseryStreak said:
There's an awful lot of b
ks on this thread (mostly from the first post).
Firstly, of course you're not going to accelerate away from anything in sixth gear! It's essentially an overdrive gear (probably with a ratio of around 0.8?) it's there purely for fuel economy on motorways and not designed for acceleration, what rpm were you doing at 70 in sixth gear - 1,500? You probably had less than 50bhp when you buried the throttle.
Secondly, I drive a '~180bhp diesel' dogwagon and not even a RWD one (Mazda 6 2.2 185 Sport) and in most situations on the road it's a quick as you'd want it to be. It gets from 30-80mph in no time at all and your speed down a road is purely limited by how brave you're feeling and anti-social you wish to be. I've driven and owned a few well regarded performance cars and know that on the road, it would be hard to create a gap from a determined driver in a '~180bhp diesel'. They might well be boring, smelly, noisy, low revving etc. But on the road a good TD lump with around 300 ft lbs torque in a good chassis is a pretty effective propulsion device.
It's much more down to the driver, especially if he doesn't know what a gearbox is for.
The post was just supposed to be a bit of fun, but as usual the know it all brigade take a break from sniffing women's underwear and start sniping.ks on this thread (mostly from the first post).Firstly, of course you're not going to accelerate away from anything in sixth gear! It's essentially an overdrive gear (probably with a ratio of around 0.8?) it's there purely for fuel economy on motorways and not designed for acceleration, what rpm were you doing at 70 in sixth gear - 1,500? You probably had less than 50bhp when you buried the throttle.
Secondly, I drive a '~180bhp diesel' dogwagon and not even a RWD one (Mazda 6 2.2 185 Sport) and in most situations on the road it's a quick as you'd want it to be. It gets from 30-80mph in no time at all and your speed down a road is purely limited by how brave you're feeling and anti-social you wish to be. I've driven and owned a few well regarded performance cars and know that on the road, it would be hard to create a gap from a determined driver in a '~180bhp diesel'. They might well be boring, smelly, noisy, low revving etc. But on the road a good TD lump with around 300 ft lbs torque in a good chassis is a pretty effective propulsion device.
It's much more down to the driver, especially if he doesn't know what a gearbox is for.
You'll notice I haven't actually mentioned what speed I was travelling at...that wasn't the intention of the post. Neither was it to discuss the mertis of diesels, driving styles etc. It was merely, out of interest, to see if anyone else had been surprised by the pace of another car.
Thankfully that's how most people interpreted it, and replied with some interesting stories - your's included apart from the snotty comments.
MiseryStreak said:
I'm sorry, it was a bit snotty. Your first post wasn't bks either, it was when you mentioned you were in sixth gear. Anyway, in the correct gear (as the Avensis was) your MPS would murder the soot wagon.
Out of interest, would you recommend the version of the 6 you have? They're nice looking cars with loads of kit, and appear to be great value for money.ks either, it was when you mentioned you were in sixth gear. Anyway, in the correct gear (as the Avensis was) your MPS would murder the soot wagon.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff