So you have just paid to have your DPF removed....

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And now the government has changed the rules, and in April the Mot test will check for one present if it was fitted with one as standard...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-for-m...

what's going to happen to all those vehicles where they have been cut out and removed and the ECU reprogrammed? My mate recently paid £400 to have it taken off his Mercedes Sprinter...

Is he stuffed?

Are the dealers rubbing their hands in anticipation of a lot of DPF sales?

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V8RX7 said:

I've never known MOT testers to worry about this kind of thing.

If it's safe = pass

Is that a joke? Testers these days are well aware that the VOSA inspector is always about checking... They now sit outside test stations logged on the system, and when the Tester finishes the test, they go into the garage and check the car over. Its all much more stringently policed these days and no tester want to lose his licence if he has passed a car when he should not have.

We can debate the rights and wrongs of the inclusion of DPF's into the test, but from April, if its not there then its going to fail, safety wont come into it.

I suspect they will also be looking into a more sophisticated check for the future...

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C. Grimsley said:

fatboy b said:

Only if it's regen-ing shirley

When you do an mot test as I do the cars are up to temp for the exhaust test, if a dpf is present the before and after temps will be different. Doesn't need to be re gening for that to take place.

I have no real issues with the test but I do feel it's starting to force the older and in my eyes better cars off the road.

Carl

That's an interesting comment Carl... If that's the case, a simple test of before and after DPF temperature check with a cheap infrared thermometer could potentially indicate if the innards have been removed or not...

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Twincharged said:

forsure said:

Johnnytheboy said:

MG CHRIS said:

proper gander

An MOT tester would need to have a really good look to see that the DPF was missing, that's for sure.

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Welshbeef said:

underphil said:

DPF removed = no valid insurance

as of already

Which ins comp is that ?

Ihearditdownthepub.com

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HemiCommander said:

Really? No modern diesel car is ever going to be a classic, they will just be discarded and recycled along with the cookers, washing machines and other domestic appliances.

I think that DPF removal should be illegal and that the emissions regulations requiring their use are a good thing. Diesel exhaust is nasty stuff and I would rather not die of lung cancer caused by it if at all possible (and not have the countryside blanketed with toxic soot). I also think that removing catalytic converters is bad and that they are there for a reason. I hope that old cars will not be outlawed but new ones should be designed to minimise their effect on our health and the environment.

I don't believe the whole CO2 theory of global doom but all the other nasty stuff that comes out the back of vehicles and causes acid rain and lung cancer etc should be controlled and minimised. This is why I have a nice clean, modern petrol V8 which I actually consider far more ecological than a diesel . Hopefully most people will soon realise that diesel cars are unsuitable for their usage cycle and start to gravitate back to petrol cars so there will be a supply of good used petrols in the future.

I don't think you fit in here mate.... I read that and it makes sense

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underphil said:

buzzer said:

Welshbeef said:

underphil said:

DPF removed = no valid insurance

as of already

Which ins comp is that ?

Ihearditdownthepub.com

Association of British Insurers

links to any documentation?

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Devil2575 said:

XJ Flyer said:

I couldn't care less about the so called 'science' IE which part of I don't believe it don't you understand.

I understand it entirely.

The fact that your opinion defies logic is my point.

You might as well tell me that you don't believe that UV from the sun causes skin cancer or that Derek Acorah can actually communicate with the dead.

A rejection of science because it doesn't suit.

Edited by Devil2575 on Wednesday 18th December 09:34

Never argue with a fool....;)

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Mr2Mike said:

XJ Flyer said:

And vice versa.

My case is that we're supposed to be living in a free society.In which case that also means the freedom of choice to disagree and not have your bullst ideology imposed on anyone who chooses to disagree and not believe.Therefore emissions controls and minimising use of fossil fuels etc etc etc should just be something that the believers need to worry about.In which case why would such believers have any interest whatsoever in a site that's 'supposed to be' all about performance car use and the freedoms to do so as have been established in terms of modifications at least.

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Theresclearlynogoodreasontousespacesandcommasandapostropheesasareawasteofoftimeaswell
HoweverIthinkyoumayneedtoadjustyourtinfoilhatasIsuspectitmaybeabittootightandiscausingbrainmalfuction

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A guy who is an MoT tester was telling me last night they are already fully booked for MoT's for the last two weeks of March! people are getting their cars/vans done early to get themselves 12 months grace.

He also said that they do MoT's for Royal Mail and the local council... and they have taken the DPF's off LOADS of their vehicles and chucked them away! Seems the type of use these vehicle are put to does not suite a DPF.

If its true that a company like Royal Mail, and councils have removed DPF's, Its very wrong...