Supermarket fuel (no not again)!
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Long story short. The company car is back (again) for EM light on and flashing glow plug light. All running fine just the odd flat spot and miss fire.
First question the main dealer asked "have you been using super market diesel"?
I've heard all the horrors but I thought this question irrelevant?
First question the main dealer asked "have you been using super market diesel"?
I've heard all the horrors but I thought this question irrelevant?
I don't use supermarkets for fuel so it's not that but it got me thinking about the various debates on the quality of the stuff if a main dealer asks a question like that. It's just, and only just inside warranty so they may be looking to wriggle?
All said, it's a uk supplied car so should be able to use uk supplied fuel that has to meet a certain grade to be sold here. I'm interested to see what they say today.
All said, it's a uk supplied car so should be able to use uk supplied fuel that has to meet a certain grade to be sold here. I'm interested to see what they say today.
Devil2575 said:
This.
Sounds very much to me like a dealer trying to wriggle out of fixing the car under warranty.
I think this is it. It might be back Thursday ish. Told them it's not run on supermarket fuel purely as I don't live near any. I asked why I was asked and they are seeing a patern of premature pump and injector failure with certain supermarket diesel.Sounds very much to me like a dealer trying to wriggle out of fixing the car under warranty.
KTF said:
The answer to this sort of nonsense question is always 'no'. If they think you have been then get then to prove it rather than say yes and watch them point to that as a get out clause.
Lucky enough the car is run on an All Star fuel card and never run on supermarket fuel. Checked with them and if needed they can print off all transactions with mileage and reg on. Told the dealer this is available if needed, I await their call!Dalmahoy said:
I can only speak for Scotland and Northern England but would be surprised if it doesn’t apply to every refinery in England also.
I work at the Grangemouth refinery and have done so now for 14 years.
All petrol and diesel for road vehicles that leaves the refinery is exactly the same whatever tanker it goes into.
They all get filled from the same plant through the same pipes and from the same tank.
Looking out the window just now – awaiting filling at the same pump is an Esso tanker, behind it a Morrison tanker and behind that a Shell tanker.
However, once the tankers are full – things change.
The supermarket tankers leave and go straight to the supermarkets and that’s it.
Shell, Esso and BP have depots here on site.
Once their tankers are full – they head to their depots for their ‘extra ingredients’ to get added.
All fuel is refined to the same standard – with the branded fuels receiving the addition of further chemicals.
And that’s it I’m afraid.
interesting, thankyou. Nothing from the dealer today. I can submit proof to them via the All Star fuel account that its 99% been Texaco and esso diesel. Thanks again for the postI work at the Grangemouth refinery and have done so now for 14 years.
All petrol and diesel for road vehicles that leaves the refinery is exactly the same whatever tanker it goes into.
They all get filled from the same plant through the same pipes and from the same tank.
Looking out the window just now – awaiting filling at the same pump is an Esso tanker, behind it a Morrison tanker and behind that a Shell tanker.
However, once the tankers are full – things change.
The supermarket tankers leave and go straight to the supermarkets and that’s it.
Shell, Esso and BP have depots here on site.
Once their tankers are full – they head to their depots for their ‘extra ingredients’ to get added.
All fuel is refined to the same standard – with the branded fuels receiving the addition of further chemicals.
And that’s it I’m afraid.
mybrainhurts said:
BFG TERRANO said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can't understand why anybody uses supermarket fuel when Shell or BP make the car run better, for only a penny a litre more.
Oh, and....
???!!!Oh, and....
BFG TERRANO said:
Long story short
Please stand still, you're spoiling my aim.....
Bet you say at this moment in time, too...:aaaargh:
sparks_E39 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can't understand why anybody uses supermarket fuel when Shell or BP make the car run better, for only a penny a litre more.
Basically, the gains are minimal, and the Shell garage around here is out of my way. Plus my car runs great, just a bit better with Shell. But it isn't enough for me to be overly fussed about it unless I'm passing and need fuel... but as I said it takes a few tanks to notice a difference.LargeD said:
BFG TERRANO said:
sparks_E39 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can't understand why anybody uses supermarket fuel when Shell or BP make the car run better, for only a penny a litre more.
Basically, the gains are minimal, and the Shell garage around here is out of my way. Plus my car runs great, just a bit better with Shell. But it isn't enough for me to be overly fussed about it unless I'm passing and need fuel... but as I said it takes a few tanks to notice a difference.If anything your case surely shows its not solely the fuel to blame
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