RE: BMW M3 tester's notes: PH Blog

RE: BMW M3 tester's notes: PH Blog

Friday 16th May 2014

BMW M3 tester's notes: PH Blog

Harris knows a thing or two about M3s; ahead of his vid here are his personal impressions of the new one



In an unusual quirk of the schedules PH ended up on the same launch cycle for the new BMW M3 and M4 as Mr Harris and cameraman Neil as they shot the video you'll be seeing very soon. As we all know, having owned several of the things Chris knows a thing or two about how this new one compares and here are his testing notes from his two days in the car. From the rushes we saw waiting for the delayed plane home the video won't disappoint either... Over to Chris.

Dan


Chris stuck with the DCT-equipped saloon
Chris stuck with the DCT-equipped saloon
Tried to construct a sophisticated simile expressing my need to say something about the new M3 because everyone else has, using words such as 'M3' 'opinions' and 'exit holes', but it just wouldn't come together without sounding bad. So I gave up.

Here are some personal notes on what I found.

Engine
Weird noise to begin with. No word of a lie, I laughed out loud when trying to define it - all I could think was 'mapped 335d'. It's less musical, lower frequency and less clearly straight-six than the M235i I'm currently driving. At first I didn't like it much, then it became a non-issue and after thrashing around a circuit for a while I almost liked it. But it's a million miles from the E46 and E92. Would I buy an everyday car on the basis of noise? Probably not. Radio 4 and ZZ Top will always overcome.

Junk in the trunk; the M3 saloon's got it
Junk in the trunk; the M3 saloon's got it
Performance? Scorching. The manual will hit 100mph in nine seconds dead, the DCT in 8.7 seconds. It hardly feels turbocharged and the torque is all-consuming. Real-world, this car is miles quicker than the old E92, and the torque means the rear axle loads up much earlier in a given turn, meaning you have the sensation of controlling the car's attitude with your right foot far more than you did before. But that should come in the chassis section. Doh.

I didn't have any problem with the throttle response. In comfort the throttle is long and a little lazy - normally I like that, but the shorter sport and sport-plus settings worked better in this car for me. In the latter the speakers mess around with the intake noise some more. Compared to, say, an E46 you lose a tiny amount of instant zap, but considering it has two turbochargers, you can take several stabs mid-corner to trim your line and the response is always there. It's worth revving out to 7,500rpm too.

Proper M engine, turbos and all? Yup
Proper M engine, turbos and all? Yup
Fuel economy at a cruise is miles better than before - a genuine 30mpg - whereas I used to see 19mpg in my E92. The M3 badly needed some range, it now has it. This is perhaps the most important improvement over the outgoing V8.

Is the motor special enough? For a quick track blast and a few hours on the road, to impress a few hacks? Probably not, especially in light of the deranged V8 model's zap and DTM blare beyond 7,500rpm. But for everyday use, the torque, the sheer speed and the range make the new gizzards - for me - far more appealing.

Colleagues have given it real flak, with the insinuation that it isn't special (dry sump, forged crank anyone?) but I'd buy this car because of the motor, not in spite of it.

Chassis
Flipping good. As in, I'm not sure how much more you can expect from a car of this type. We had 19-inch wheels (standard in the UK) running the standard Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Incidentally, that's a completely new tyre with a bespoke aramid belting and compounds specific to this car only. Front axle grip is alarming at first - you push, it grips, you play silly, and it still grips. On very technical roads, nothing in the class would see where it had gone (in the dry) for that reason alone.

Harris wasn't driving for these press shots...
Harris wasn't driving for these press shots...
Electronic dampers (again standard in the UK) give the same three modes as the motor. Comfort is the default road setting giving a still firm ride, but no crashiness. Sport adds some support, but I suspect in the UK it will be too much. The firmest setting is for the smoother sections of the Sepang F1 track. There's a non-adjustable damper option that in practice offers a fixed setting somewhere between the sport and sport plus settings, but it isn't coming to the UK.

The clever locking differential is essentially lifted from the F10 M5 - it can slacken itself to a fully open setting under brakes and at high speed, and then lock to 100 per cent on the exit of a turn. It's possibly the most complete unit of its type I've driven and certainly contributes to that searing turn-in and agility on the road.

Of course it's a drift expert - it's an M3. You can choose any angle and pretty much any speed. The tyres can handle quite a beating in this mode. Handy information for that morning commute.

Brakes and tyres make M3 track-ready from box
Brakes and tyres make M3 track-ready from box
Steering
Leave it in comfort. The other two settings simply add weight, and I disliked them both. The 3 Series electric steering rack has been comprehensively re-engineered for this car, at vast expense. Does it feel like a conventional hydraulic rack? Nope. Is it exceedingly accurate? Yes. And the world really does have a short memory if it cites the last two M3s as being steering paragons. The E46 was light but accurate, the E92 lacked initial response off-centre. Neither were great.

This is not steering to savour, but it gives the driver instant confidence, and that is a brilliant trick when allied to all that front axle grip. For a big car, you can place the M3 with uncanny accuracy.

Gearbox
I only drove a DCT, and the manual would need to be somewhere near a late NSX in shift quality to persuade me to not have the two-pedal car. The dual-clutch is fast, smooth in town, gives extra fuel economy and it just suits the power and torque delivery of the motor. Fast shifts give a decent exhaust crack too.

Tastefully pimped over a standard 3er
Tastefully pimped over a standard 3er
Brakes
We had the optional carbon ceramics, which will make prospective owners look away because they're too expensive. Well, BMW is talking about €7,000 for them, and they're plain superb. If I was going to use this car as intended, I'd have them, and normally I always advise the cheaper steel option. I'm saying that partly because with the standard Super Sport rubber and those ceramic stoppers, you have something instantly track-able.

Cabin
Single piece front seats are spot-on. Steering wheel still too thick, hi-fi very good, iDrive still baffling. Just the right amount of bespoke touches to make it feel that much more special than an F30 3 Series. Incidentally, geeks like me are rejoicing that this car gets its own internal designation - F80. The coupe is F82.

Looks
Not mine to judge really. But if the M3, in that baby blue colour (which is actually a metallic on closer inspection) isn't the best looking M3 since the 1990 Sport Evolution, then I'll call all those E46 CSL owners Jessies. Actually, the CSL is a belting looking thing, isn't it. Look, the F80 has such a sexy rear axle set-down on the road, that people like us will point and grin at them.

Best looking M3 since Sport Evo? Discuss
Best looking M3 since Sport Evo? Discuss
Would you?
Absolutely. I loved my E92, but it was surprisingly limited as my daily driver. Opportunities to enjoy that motor beyond 7,000 were predictably limited, the lack of torque left you exposed to turbo hot hatches and, well, you know my thoughts on the range.

This car rights all of those wrongs. In isolation, the motor gets blown into next week by the current C63 507 for pure noise and theatre, but on the road the BMW's fuel consumption and massive torque would swing it for me. Sounds boring, but that's what matters in a daily driver.Not to mention the transmission which makes the Merc's feel pretty antiquated now. And I still think the powertrain feels special enough for an M car.

The rest of the package is BMW M at its best. I think it's a truly special car. It made me smile for the two days that I drove it. When the video comes out in the next few weeks, watch the section where we talk through the level of modification over standard 3er. This car is 50 per cent new.

It's a blinder. I'll have the saloon, the dampers, the big brakes, the DCT, and probably the baby blue. So exactly the car I drove on the launch then.

Chris





   
   
   

 

 

 

 

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Mermaid

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Friday 16th May 2014
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"Absolutely. I loved my E92, but it was surprisingly limited as my daily driver. Opportunities to enjoy that motor beyond 7,000 were predictably limited, the lack of torque left you exposed to turbo hot hatches"

The M3 for today's environment, well done BMW.

Mermaid

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E65Ross said:
Sounds like an absolute corker. Sounds like the motor is the only thing not as thrilling as it perhaps could be, but it makes up for it in other areas; and sounds like the car moves the game on as an all-round package.
yes Will achieve what BMW really, really wants - better sales than the prior model.

Mermaid

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I suppose the 'Ring time will be set with a Ceramic braked car - any suggestions of how quick? 7:40?

Mermaid

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Henry Fiddleton said:
Yikes- sounds almost as good as 2CV!

wink
Akrapovic designed it for BMW. wink

Good for their sales.

Mermaid

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The "baby blue" launch colour - short term fashion? Or will it have staying power.


Cannot remember all the launch colours

E30 - White?

E36 - Yellow?

E46 - No idea

E92 - Melbourne Red?

Mermaid

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evosport said:
Would love Chris to do a road test of a Sport Evo, must be in Jet Black v M4
Knife to a gun fight - one is all charisma/charm/mechanical handing/feeling - the other is not so. wink

Good if he does, and also include a CSL.

Mermaid

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s m said:
Too much of an icon?
In its time, an amazingly quick road car (964 C2 fast?) that seats 4 comfortably and carry plenty of luggage. And I forgot the race success. biggrin


Edited by Mermaid on Friday 16th May 18:53

Mermaid

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s m said:
True.... but that 4-pot would be a non starter for many later M3 fans reading some of the comments on here - they'd like a B6 3.5S

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I can understand that.
Road & race is different. Alpina's race car was a 4 pot, not the wonderful autobahn cruiser - the nose heavy B6S.

Mermaid

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Gruber said:
I was also somewhat disappointed by the attack on Moosey. Whatever his name, background and career he ought to be allowed to spout forth on here with anonymity like the rest of us (provided he sticks to the rules, natch).
I like Chris Harris & his automotive/journalistic flair, but I too felt it was unnecessary to name. Cheers all. beer

Mermaid

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E65Ross said:
One thing interesting from a lot of journos over the last couple of years and now......

On the E92 M3

"Needs to be revved hard and doesn't have enough torque"

So, the new car has a lot more torque and displays all the characteristics that were seemingly wanted

On the New M3/4

"doesn't need to be revved as hard and thus doesn't feel as special"

make your fking mind up guys.
Give it up Ross wink

Mermaid

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Patrick Bateman said:
As an overall package an e9X M3 sounds hard to beat, hardly massively flawed.

Do Audi owners moan about torque with the B7 RS4 and R8?
RS4/R8 better torque delivery than the the E92 M3. However the RS4 & the E92 both great packages.

Mermaid

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Patrick Bateman said:
Mermaid said:
RS4/R8 better torque delivery than the the E92 M3. However the RS4 & the E92 both great packages.
Even with peak torque at 5500rpm?
E92 - 400nm at 3900 max
RS4 - 400nm at 2500, max at 5500 but higher

Feel free to correct me.

Mermaid

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Saturday 17th May 2014
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Zod said:
ave you ever driven an E60, E92 or F10 M car (short test drives don't count) or are these just the usual regurgitated soundbites?
Zod makes a fair point - all too often, people make comments baed on what they "heard" from a mate, a short test drive (limited speeds & revs), what they read - the sound characteristic grows on you.

Mermaid

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E65Ross said:
How is the gearbox in the F10 M5 rubbish? It's regarded as one of the best dual clutch boxes out there! It's so smooth and fast it's unreal.
It is awesome- super seamless, and iMO better than the PDK from Porsche.

Mermaid

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Wills2 said:
You're not factoring in weight or the gearbox, so they are utterly irrelevant numbers.

The utter drivel that is continually spouted about the s65 is mind numbing.
What intriques me is that you never hear of anyone complain about the torque on the RS4. But you often hear that of the E92? confused

Different characteristic, horses for courses IMO. As I have said before, both amazing.

Mermaid

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Sunday 18th May 2014
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E65Ross said:
There's no doubt for something like an M5 or M6 I'd definitely want the DCT over a manual version because it's more suited to the car (likewise, I wouldn't ever want a manual Mercedes S class!) but in an M3 it's a bit touch and go...
400ps is about the level at which I would prefer DCT/PDK, and perhaps 1.8 tonnes onwards smile

Mermaid

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Chris Harris said:
RMac said:
Please can we have an estate? Ideally with a tow bar option too.
Put that to the man from BMW. His response " You always say that, but when we build one, not many people buy it'"
But never a 3 series M Touring.

More M3's are sold than M5's - bigger target audience.