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curtainrail

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Saturday 26th July 2014
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I think i made a stupid decision today, well i didnt have a clue about these blue v5's, i bought a car and it had a blue v5, i checked the vin on the car and it matched, i thought all was fine to find out now all of them should have been changed to red. Now the v5 isent in the batch numbers of the stolen ones but im really worried. The hpi check came back clear apart from issue date not the same as dvla. Could the owner have just lost the red? The post office sent off the form to make me the new keeper, am i likely to have any trouble

Yes im an idiot.

curtainrail

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Mr Classic said:
No, unless the details have been changed since July 2011 it wil still have the blue V5.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/advice/news/Archive/...
Ahh ive heard other people say everyone with a blue should get a red. Its only had the one owner from new.

curtainrail

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Saturday 26th July 2014
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Hooli said:
I got reds through the post to replace all my blues, at the time it happened I had three bikes & a car. Got red ones for them all.
What could be the reason this has a blue? Stolen?

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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longshot said:
What does this bit say? I can't make sense of it.
The stolen ones had set batch numbers and the one i had is not in the range of numbers. (Asin the serial number of the document)

curtainrail

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Mr GrimNasty said:
I got a red automatically, no changes. According to this they should ALL be red by now.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...
fk my life frown

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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longshot said:
Ah, ok. Well that's good then.
Perhaps he filed the letter without opening it.

I've had some comical experiences with the DVLA so it is perfectly reasonable that a few vehicles slipped through the net and didn't get new V5s.
only problem is it says dont send the blue one back to dvla it needs to be destroyed (when they issued everyone a red one), and ive just sent it off to say im the new keeper

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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longshot said:
They will know the name of the registered keeper and so if it matches the name on the V5, that's a start.

Have you been in touch with the seller about this?

It may require sitting on the phone for a while but a call to the DVLA on Monday may be helpful.

I would not automatically assume that you are screwed, it may just take a bit of work to straighten it all out.
Well the hpi check came back that the issue date was different so im assuming the previous owner didnt open his mail or lost the red one.

Would they refuse to send me another v5 if i sent proof of the reciept etc??


curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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If the dvla refuse to accept the blue one is it possible to apply for a v5 as a new owner if i send a reciept as proof?

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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clarkey said:
If the issue date doesn't match it means there is a later one out there somewhere. My main concern would be a log book loan.
I did 2 hpi checks none stated any outstanding finance etc??

curtainrail

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Is there any way i can tell if the car has a logbook loan against it?? This is concering me now as ive heard it sont show up on hpi checks.

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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Vince70 said:
How old is the car as I think you can only get a loan on something that is under 10 yrs old..
Its 7 year old, its come from quite far away and hasent been taxed for 6 months which feels suspicious to mr as though theyve been hiding it, the AA check didnt come back with any outstanding finance just that the issue date was incorrect.

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Lucky you haven't yet parted with the cash. Hmmm.

If you bought the car from the address on the V5 the previous owner will presumably be easy for Bib to find and arrest. On the other hand if you paid cash in a lay-by.....
I bought from a dealer

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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pincher said:
I never received a red V5 for the BMW I sold to my next-door neighbour. A quick call to DVLA with the details of the old one saw them send me a new one in under a week.

Don't start sweating just yet - you are making the massive assumption that DVLA have all their ducks in a row and haven't screwed up, which as quite a few of us can probably attest to, is a rather silly assumption biggrin
I think im just worried about the whole log book loan thing, especially since it hasent been taxed for 6 months.

curtainrail

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Anyone know how to check if thier is a log book loan outstanding so at least i know

curtainrail

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Also the hpi said there was no outstanding finance and theres up to 30,000 compensation if the informationis wrong, does this mean if there was a log book loan id have a comeback?

or could i sue the garage for selling me it?

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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Mr Classic said:
Just bought a car of my brother with a blue V5, haven't sent off the V5 yet. Should I ring them up to send a new one to him, or should I just send the blue one off?
I sent the blue one to them but gna ring them tommorow aswell to tell them the situation

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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Is there still a lot of car owners with a blue v5 and no red? Despite what dvla say

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
The buck stops with the dealer then, if there are any problems. Assuming they don't just disappear.
So i could sue the dealer even though i accepted the blue log book? Obviously not knowing it should be redm

curtainrail

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Sunday 27th July 2014
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longshot said:
If the car turns out to be stolen or fraudulent in any way, yes.

You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
If the car is legit, it will get sorted out between you and the DVLA.
If the car is dodgy you will get your money back from the dealer.

Now, get yourself a beer from the fridge and relax before your head explodes.
Well this is good, im assuming dealers have some kind of insurance because how would they know if the car had a log book loan on it? Would the dealer have to sue the original owner?


curtainrail

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Monday 28th July 2014
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Also how easy is it realistically to take a dealer to court to recover costs?