Car dealer failed to declare car previously Cat D

[Alfaowner2707]

It has been taken down. But autotrader have emailed me a copy of the text.

[Alfaowner2707]

Yes I realise now I was being naive, I've never bought a car in my life so lesson learned.

Thanks, I need to really think about this but I appreciate all the answered that were trying to help.

[Alfaowner2707]

POORCARDEALER said:

The legal situation is:

The dealer has to put in their ad if the vehicle is on the register and on the order forum/receipt.

The fact they didnt know is irrelevant


They risk prosecution.

Ask for your money back in full.



Ps. Sounds like car was too cheap, you now know why

Edited by POORCARDEALER on Wednesday 30th July 18:39

Have you a link to any legislation or is it a regulatory body who traders subscribe to? I can't find anything online.

[Alfaowner2707]

catman said:

Wouldn't it be simpler to get your money back and buy a car with no adverse history.

I'm sure that when you come to sell, you'll take a hit and if you have an accident, the pay out will probably be lower too, as it's already been written off.

Tim

I agree Tim, I can't get this car for my budget (certainly not a low mileage one) or I would have been straight back for my money back. I'm weighing up how risky if is for me to keep the car (with some compensation of course- shock, horror!)

Reselling is not a concern, I do 25k+ a year so the car will be worth more to me to keep and drive it into the ground

[Alfaowner2707]

Yawn, this incessant need to repeat myself is getting boring. I specifically asked him if the car had ever been written off. He said it hadn't and he is STILL saying he didn't even know which is obviously a lie.

He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.

[Alfaowner2707]

rongagin said:

Really this seems to come down to you making every effort to find out the level of damage the car took to make at a CAT car. THEN the quality of repair.

Then if the outcome is acceptable to you/an engineer then at the right price you seem to want the car.
If the car took what you consider too much damage, you will walk away with money back, correct?

So it all revolves around you finding out the level of damage, unfortunately the RAC type inspection will probably not be the correct approach to assess damage and repair.

You need to try and get to the previous owner and ask the questions. Or an in-depth assessment.
Loss of money on trade-in isn't the only issue for you the driver.

Correct. I can get an almost identical car (6 months older) for 10k so I don't want to pay more than 7,500 for this car...presuming it's ok

[Alfaowner2707]

POORCARDEALER said:

Alfaowner2707 said:

Yawn, this incessant need to repeat myself is getting boring. I specifically asked him if the car had ever been written off. He said it hadn't and he is STILL saying he didn't even know which is obviously a lie.

He sold me a car that wasn't as described and if he doesn't want to compensate me then he can have his car back and I'll have my money back (minus the cost of the RAC check). Either voluntarily or via the legal system.

Try not to go down the legal route, will take months

I will only go down the legal route if pushed

[Alfaowner2707]

Fast Bug said:

Alfaowner2707 said:

Agreed, I don't know of it makes any difference but it was 13 months old when it was written off.

If a part was on back order, the rental costs for a loan car could push the costs too high so they decided to write it off instead. I seem to remember a Lotus Evora was written off when it had very minor damage as the rear bumper was on back order. The costs for a like for like car were so high that the insurance company decided to cut thier losses on it. So your car might not have had that much damage

I hope not but need to find out, too risky to take the chance

[Alfaowner2707]

lord trumpton said:

OP - seems like you want your cake and eat it.

You paid CAT D money for the car.
The car turns out to be CAT D
You seem to be happy with it
You seem to want to keep it

It seems like you are after some cash back from the dealer at whatever cost.

It does seem to me that you are just trying to grab an armful of cash back. As you paid a cheap price for it then you are not at a loss financially so what do you want to be 'compensated' for?

Dealer probably lied - so what if you are happy and not out of pocket. Stop trying to sponge money, take some responsibility and stop whinging.

You probably won't like the above, but thats my advice for what its worth

I am out of pocket and I'm clearly not happy, have you read any of the thread?

I value honesty and integrity so I'm not going to take advice from anyone who thinks it's ok to lie (that's you im talking about since you seem to have difficulty processing information).

Edited by Alfaowner2707 on Wednesday 30th July 20:40

[Alfaowner2707]

lord trumpton said:

Yeah yeah.

If you are so smart then perhaps you should have checked the car out first to save all this whinging.

Alfa Romeo are crap anyway

I am confident I can reach a satisfactory resolution of my current predicament.

Unfortunately for you, you will always be stupid!

[Alfaowner2707]

Chainguy said:

Alfaowner2707 said:

Correct. I can get an almost identical car (6 months older) for 10k so I don't want to pay more than 7,500 for this car...presuming it's ok

So you want nigh on 15% of the price back as some form of compensation?!?

Genuine

Seriously, I'd say this highlights the joys of dealing with the public alright. Not often I feel sorry for a dealer, but with this one, they are starting to have my sympathies.

10 k is for a non Cat D car. £7,500 is the market value if a cat D car. Yep the poor lying dealer..,

[Alfaowner2707]

Janesy B said:

I could understand if you wanted to give the car back, but what compensation could they give you seeing as it was sold under market value anyway?

I paid under market value for a NON Cat D car! I paid too much for a Cat D car

[Alfaowner2707]

Janesy B said:

You've already stated a 6 month older car is £1000 so you've got 25% off as it stands. Have you found any other Cat D cars and judged the decrease in value?

Nope, i got 12% off.

Standard is 25% according to my mechanic and alfa service centre (and the general consensus on the internet).

[Alfaowner2707]

Alfaowner2707 said:

Janesy B said:

You've already stated a 6 month older car is £1000 so you've got 25% off as it stands. Have you found any other Cat D cars and judged the decrease in value?

Nope, i got 12% off.

Standard is 25% according to my mechanic and alfa service centre (and the general consensus on the internet).

That's 10k advertised, there will likely be some room for negotiation. Even if I took the value of a similar vehicle to be 11k I still overpaid.

[Alfaowner2707]

TooMany2cvs said:

deltashad said:

She's not looking for sympathy.

What else is "compensation for stress and inconvenience", but sympathy in folding form?

I'm not asking YOU for anything...

I work in a court. Compensation does not have to be quantified.

[Alfaowner2707]

Thanks all. I have spoken to my solicitor friend and made a decision. Pending a satisfactory inspection I am going to email the dealer and offer him the option of refunding me the balance between what I paid and the market value of Cat D car, plus the cost of the inspection. If he declines I will ask for a refund and compensation of my costs incurred to date .

He is in breach of several laws and although I really want a speedy resolution, i will go down that route if necessary.

I have deleted the OP on the advice of my solicitor friend but will come back and update when it is resolved.

Edited by Alfaowner2707 on Wednesday 30th July 21:51