Should we remove the age barrier for young drivers in case..

Should we remove the age barrier for young drivers in case..

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AreOut

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Wednesday 27th August 2014
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they drive only cars/bikes with full, not hackable telemetry? Why not allow anyone physically/mentally fit to drive if he would constantly get monitored with danger of losing the license if he ever does anything reckless (say >10-20 mph over the limit, abrupt moves etc.)?

AreOut

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Wednesday 27th August 2014
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otolith said:
We already give licences to people who are not really psychologically mature enough
well that is the first problem, how to determine if someone is mature enough? Age is not the good measure, smeone matures with 12-13 years (so that you wouldn't believe how that "kid" thinks), someone never...

AreOut

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Wednesday 27th August 2014
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otolith said:
Of course there is a distribution, but there are robust statistical trends in areas like attitude to risk-taking and impulse control.
so why not limit that at 30 or 35 but 17/18? Many people mature more from 25 to 30 than from 15 to 25.

and why is the 17yo kid allowed to drive an F1 car next year then? Those are significantly more dangerous than usual Clio 1.2 albeit it's all done in relatively controlled environment.

AreOut

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Thursday 28th August 2014
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tomjol said:
How exactly are you going to determine that one individual is mature enough and the other isn't?

The point about Verstappen is irrelevant.

Edited by tomjol on Thursday 28th August 09:17
I'm not psychologist but they could find some way, if nothing they could try an IQ test or something, IQ isn't everything, not even the most important thing but it could be measured and mature persons usually have higher IQ (higher than, say, 80).

AreOut

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Friday 29th August 2014
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otolith said:
IQ is no use.
I wouldn't agree there, IQ doesn't necessarily make you smart but certainly increases probability. More smart someone is - less chance to do stupid things.

AreOut

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Saturday 30th August 2014
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Hol said:
Race driving does not require a knowledge or application of the Highway Code, or lane discipline, use of indicators etc.
It's about safe speed, grip and the racing rules.

Edited by Hol on Saturday 30th August 09:30
racing cars(properly) is million times harder than driving on the street and requires much more abilities AND responsibility for yourself and others, ask Maldonado

AreOut

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Sunday 31st August 2014
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Gaspode said:
Not This

If there was a driving simulator that replicated real-world road driving situations, then I might agree. All Gran Tursimo or whatever teaches you is that if you try to take Tamburello too fast you'll crash - but that's ok because you can reset and have another go.

The skills you need for car control on the limit (which is what racing is all about) are not the skills you need for safely negotiating your way though Basingstoke on a wet Friday evening in December.

Edited by Gaspode on Sunday 31st August 07:11
however what percent of drivers haven't had car out of control (being it on rain/snow, not just speeding) at one point of time?

also there is a driving simulator that replicates real traffic, too lazy to google for it now

AreOut

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Monday 1st September 2014
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Pommygranite said:
You went full retard.

Never go full retard.
care to explain? If you are underage and want to drive, you have to give up some of your privacy. Driving at sane speeds for a couple of years would prepare you better for unmonitored drive than putting you straight away in "unmonitored" car.

AreOut

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Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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almost