RE: Scrappage carnage detailed

RE: Scrappage carnage detailed

Monday 29th September 2014

Scrappage carnage detailed

New document reveals all models scrapped under the 2009 scheme - read and weep



The scale of the Shed carnage wreaked by the 2009 scrappage scheme has been revealed in a new document that shows the complete breakdown by make and model of all 392,227 cars that went to the breakers in return for a £2,000 discount off a new car. The list, generated by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) in response to a freedom of information claim, makes for grim reading when you see what we've lost for ever.

Do we spy an Alpina'd E36 3 Series there?
Do we spy an Alpina'd E36 3 Series there?
You can look at the list yourself (click on Download CSV to see the whole thing) and decide which ones would have made more for the owner had they done the sensible thing and sold them on the open market. The BMW 2002? Audi Quattro 20V? Morgan 4/4 Convertible? The playing field is pretty level in that all cars scrapped had to have a current MoT so were in theory roadworthy.

It's hard to fathom how enthusiasts could have made the decision to destroy what they must have loved at some point (all cars had to have been owned by the person doing the scrapping for at least a year).

Doing some quick sums on the Excel document showed 101 Porsches bit the dust, split between 944s and 924s, but also three 928s. A Triumph Dolomite Sprint was scrapped, as were nine Triumph Spitfires and quite a few MG Midgets. It's sad how cars that will be loved one day in the future were culled - a whopping 45 Jaguar XJSs hit the 'heap for example, out of 731 Jaguars in total. It's also sad how it hastened the demise of cars that weren't really loved, but you want to see every now and then. Cars like the Skoda 130, the Peugeot 505 GTI family, the Mitsubishi Tredia (okay, maybe not that).

Hyundai boasted of the cars traded in for scrap
Hyundai boasted of the cars traded in for scrap
But there were also cars that were or would have become bonafide classics, like the Honda Integra R, Ford Capri 3000 Ghia, Lancia Delta HF, Lancia Beta Spyder, Fiat X1/9 (11 of them!) and the Mercedes 560 SEC.

A warning before you go searching the document: the inputting of names was atrocious. BIS blames the manufacturers for this, for which read the dealers. How many ways can a junior salesman spell Citroen? Let's count: Cireon, Citeon, Citoeon, Citreon, Citron, Cittoen. Some spellings raised an eyebrow - Ford Fista Encore, anyone?

The scrappage scheme was important in that it did pull the country's car industry out of a horrendous pit - sales in November 2008 dived 36 per cent compared to the previous November. Scappage scheme cars accounted for around fifth of all cars sold in that 10-month period, which cost the government £400 million. As expected, scrappers mainly went for budget cars - the biggest winner was Hyundai, which shifted 47,000 cars under the scheme, 26,000 of which were the i10 city car.

Tough to learn, especially when you see a TVR S2 on the list of cars that died to make that happen.

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bmthnick1981

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What a shame. Alpina B7? An M5? Lots of Merc 560's and 600's. Shame the govt couldn't allow enthusiasts access to this vast stock for a flat rate of £1k or £2k per car.

bmthnick1981

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loudlashadjuster said:
bmthnick1981 said:
What a shame. Alpina B7? An M5? Lots of Merc 560's and 600's. Shame the govt couldn't allow enthusiasts access to this vast stock for a flat rate of £1k or £2k per car.
I'm sure there were very good reasons that most if not all of the cars that were ostensibly worth saving ended up crushed.

We see the PH-worthy names and like to think they were worth saving, but in reality most would probably have been rusty, poorly-maintained junk, or been accident damaged or MOT fails but still within the terms of the scrappage scheme.
I think a current MOT was one of the requirements of the scheme; http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...


bmthnick1981

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loudlashadjuster said:
bmthnick1981 said:
I think a current MOT was one of the requirements of the scheme; http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...

No, you could use an MOT fail within 14 days of the days of MOT expiry. I should know, I managed to turn £100-worth of scrap ex-Micra into £2,000 off a £4,995 Panda.

Sold the Panda three years later for £3,200 smile
Fair enough, happy to be corrected by someone with real world experience of the scheme.

bmthnick1981

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Blakewater said:
More photos here http://rovertech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&...

I guess the only people who could afford new cars, even with £2,000 off, would have been people with classics or people who bought new cars and ran them for years. It was therefore pretty much inevitable that the cars getting scrapped would be mainly cheaper classics or cars that were old but low mileage and well maintained. Those who can only afford a car for around £200 and never maintain it could never have really benefited from the scheme anyway, so the cars that really should have been shuffled off to the scrapheap chugged on in their smokey glory.
Those pics are incredible, I can see the BMW csi, an e24, Merc SEC and many other classics. How very, very sad.