270 horsepower from a 1.6 litre engine?

270 horsepower from a 1.6 litre engine?

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baccalad

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Thursday 2nd October 2014
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/First-drive-270...

Peugeots new RCZ R has a 1.6 petrol engine producing 270 hp, which from a 1.6 is extraordinary, apparently the most powerful 1.6 in the word.

What I don't understand though is why VAG have been twincharging their 1.4 litre petrol petrol engine to produce 180 hp and the RCZ is making a lot more from a 1.6 with only a turbocharger, and now in the new Polo GTI the 1.4 has been replaced with a 1.8 litre engine yet this only produces around 10 more HP than the 1.4, granted with only a turbocharger but still. Then you get the vast majority of the range of hot hatches today like the Focus ST, producing somewhere around the 250 hp mark with their 2.0 litre turbocharged engines.

To me it seems like engines are capable of a lot lot more than manufacturers are putting through them but they won't push the boundaries, why can't/won't other manufacturers follow suit? And I don't even like the Pegeuot RCZ I think it's ghastly.

baccalad

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Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I've just found this video of a 0 - top speed run of the RCZ R, I don't know if it's partially down to short gearing but the thing looks like it needs wings to take off.

It'd be interesting to see a power and torque against rpm graph from a dyno readout.

http://youtu.be/v8U4i_GGH3Y

baccalad

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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Strapping a turbo on an engine effectively increases it's displacement. So a 1.6 engine with a big turbo will be performing like a 3 litre engine (with economy to match if you use the accelerator like an on/off switch).
Haha I like that, I wish I could afford to use the accelerator like an on/off switch xD

baccalad

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nitrodave said:
400bhp can be had from a 2 litre turbo with quite a bit of ease so I don't see why 270bhp from a 1.6 is a so special
The A45 AMG with 350-odd brake does spring to mind but this 1.6 just stood out so much more to me.