Dealer asked for new logbook but I bought the car before he
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...received it.
Hi,
I recently bought a car from a dealer with no logbook (not even the green slip bit).
When I went to see the car and asked about the logbook, the dealer told me they asked the DVLA for a duplicate (V62 form and they paid the £25 fee) so the new buyer wouldn't have to do the procedure.
They told me they would send it to me as soon as they receive the new logbook, so we can transfer the name of the keeper with the DVLA.
I knew this was a bit risky, but after doing an HPI check and after checking if all the paperwork was there (MOT certificate, service history, bills), I decided to pay for the car. I signed the contract with the dealer and made sure I got a receipt.
Now my situation is, I'm the owner of the car, but I'm still not registered with the DVLA (not the keeper yet).
I'm not in the case where Im waiting for the DVLA to send the logbook with my name on it, because the garage asked for the car's logbook before I even bought it.
So basically the DVLA doesnt know I own the car, and its probably still registered under the previous owner.
Rang the dealer to talk about the tax, he told me I could still use the previous owner's tax (still valid) because the car is still registered under his name.
Now I'm just wondering
- Am I allowed to drive with no logbook (im insured,etc...) and not even the green slip? (so basically without being registered)
- Is there any chance the previous owner kept the original logbook and didnt tell the DVLA he sold his car? If he's got the logbook, a spare key and knows my address, he could be able to steal the car as well
I know it was a mistake to buy before having the logbook, I thought it would be easy to just get a new one since we can ask for one on the DVLA site in case it's missing
Hi,
I recently bought a car from a dealer with no logbook (not even the green slip bit).
When I went to see the car and asked about the logbook, the dealer told me they asked the DVLA for a duplicate (V62 form and they paid the £25 fee) so the new buyer wouldn't have to do the procedure.
They told me they would send it to me as soon as they receive the new logbook, so we can transfer the name of the keeper with the DVLA.
I knew this was a bit risky, but after doing an HPI check and after checking if all the paperwork was there (MOT certificate, service history, bills), I decided to pay for the car. I signed the contract with the dealer and made sure I got a receipt.
Now my situation is, I'm the owner of the car, but I'm still not registered with the DVLA (not the keeper yet).
I'm not in the case where Im waiting for the DVLA to send the logbook with my name on it, because the garage asked for the car's logbook before I even bought it.
So basically the DVLA doesnt know I own the car, and its probably still registered under the previous owner.
Rang the dealer to talk about the tax, he told me I could still use the previous owner's tax (still valid) because the car is still registered under his name.
Now I'm just wondering
- Am I allowed to drive with no logbook (im insured,etc...) and not even the green slip? (so basically without being registered)
- Is there any chance the previous owner kept the original logbook and didnt tell the DVLA he sold his car? If he's got the logbook, a spare key and knows my address, he could be able to steal the car as well
I know it was a mistake to buy before having the logbook, I thought it would be easy to just get a new one since we can ask for one on the DVLA site in case it's missing
What if I get arrested by the police, do they usually ask for the log book?
I rang the DVLA and they told me to keep the car off the road as long as Im not registered.
I'm just worried the previous owner kept the original log book; seen as the car is still registered under his name, he can still pretends he owns the car?
I rang the DVLA and they told me to keep the car off the road as long as Im not registered.
I'm just worried the previous owner kept the original log book; seen as the car is still registered under his name, he can still pretends he owns the car?
The car was sold to me after the 1st of October and the tax from the previous owner runs until beginning of March
In the process of receiving a new Logbook so I can register the car under my name, but in the meantime the DVLA isnt aware I bought the car? Rang them today and they didn't receive anything yet
In the process of receiving a new Logbook so I can register the car under my name, but in the meantime the DVLA isnt aware I bought the car? Rang them today and they didn't receive anything yet
I meant the tax from the previous owner ''was supposed to'' run until end of March. I know rules have changed and the tax is not transferable but the dealer told me I could still use it until the RK name is updated.
I'm going to leave the car off the road in a safe place until I get the V5 from the garage (They asked for one filling out the V62 form when they received the car and realised there was no log book).
I thought the HPI check covered logbook loans as well :s
I'm going to leave the car off the road in a safe place until I get the V5 from the garage (They asked for one filling out the V62 form when they received the car and realised there was no log book).
I thought the HPI check covered logbook loans as well :s
I just got a call from the garage this morning and they received the logbook!!
I asked if it was the duplicate (they sent a V62 form just in case the original didnt turn up) and the dealer said it was the original one - which is probably the case as the V62 form was sent only a week ago, so they wouldn't have received a new logbook by now (takes at least 4 weeks).
This is good news (turned up quite quick at the end) but I still find it very weird the car wasn't sold with a V5 in the first place. I asked the dealer where it was, and he said he didn't know.
Now the garage can either send the V5 to me, or I could come and pick it up. I said I would go, don't I need them to sign it etc?
What else should I ask/check with them before I leave with the V5?
I asked if it was the duplicate (they sent a V62 form just in case the original didnt turn up) and the dealer said it was the original one - which is probably the case as the V62 form was sent only a week ago, so they wouldn't have received a new logbook by now (takes at least 4 weeks).
This is good news (turned up quite quick at the end) but I still find it very weird the car wasn't sold with a V5 in the first place. I asked the dealer where it was, and he said he didn't know.
Now the garage can either send the V5 to me, or I could come and pick it up. I said I would go, don't I need them to sign it etc?
What else should I ask/check with them before I leave with the V5?
I'm not sure if it's just the new keeper supplement or the actual V5C. I'd rather go and sort out the paperwork with the dealer at the garage. Plus, from what I've read, the trader is in charge of sending the V5 to the DVLA, and not me?
I will check if the V5 is the original one like he said, how can I tell if it's a duplicate?
I will carry out a full HPI check just in case. The trader did one (using Autocheck) but apparently logbook loans don't show on a basic HPI check..?
I will check if the V5 is the original one like he said, how can I tell if it's a duplicate?
I will carry out a full HPI check just in case. The trader did one (using Autocheck) but apparently logbook loans don't show on a basic HPI check..?
Ok, I picked the V5 at the garage yesterday.
It was the original one with the name and signature of the keeper, so the garage didnt fill out anything. I kept the green slip and went to the post office to tax and send the V5 to DVLA.
I checked the V5, everything matched with the car (VIN, registration etc..), but the engine number was different from the one I had on the receipt... ??
It was the original one with the name and signature of the keeper, so the garage didnt fill out anything. I kept the green slip and went to the post office to tax and send the V5 to DVLA.
I checked the V5, everything matched with the car (VIN, registration etc..), but the engine number was different from the one I had on the receipt... ??
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