Renault Clio 1.5DCi (106 BHP)? OR ALTERNATIVE?
Discussion
I am 17, thinking of getting a quicker and obviously better second car than my 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa Energy which is a first car based on cheap insurance.
Not getting this second car until next year when I have my 1 years no claims..
Not looking for a second car where the insurance is going to be sky high (any where near £2000)
any ideas or opinions on the Clio
HAVE £2500 To spend
Not getting this second car until next year when I have my 1 years no claims..
Not looking for a second car where the insurance is going to be sky high (any where near £2000)
any ideas or opinions on the Clio
HAVE £2500 To spend
TheAngryDog said:
Why create a new thread when you had this one that you started 8 hours ago?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
just wanted the title to be more to the point with the Clio and comparisons to it..http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
BritishRacinGrin said:
OP, I hope you realise that your screen name and it's reference to your date of birth will make a lot of people in here feel very old all of a sudden. As far as I'm concerend, there is no way that a person who was born in 1997 can be driving a car and instead you should you should only just be out-growing your Kettler pedal go-kart.
It's monday morning and now I'm depressed thanks to you. I was born in 1989 and I've just realised that now that sounds like a long time ago.
born 3rd January 1997, Turned 17 on 3rd January 2014, Passed first time 20th March 2014, now been driving almost 9 months..It's monday morning and now I'm depressed thanks to you. I was born in 1989 and I've just realised that now that sounds like a long time ago.
BritishRacinGrin said:
Get a quote on a 1.9tdi Peugeot 306, and a 2.0hdi. If they're not ridiculous try to find a good one of those which isn't knackred. A great car in my opinion.
That said my first car was a 2000 Clio 1.2 and I thought the mk2 was a great car. Some people have an irrational prejudice against French cars around here.
That said, the VAG idea isn't bad (although they do carry a badge premium, even Skodas these days!) and the Mini Cooper is a great car all 'round but I'm not sure you'll get a diesel one which isn't pretty ratty for 2,500.
looking for a newer car, the Clio 1.5DCi is between 2005-2008 for £2500, and yeah finding a Mini D will be too hard for the budget I haveThat said my first car was a 2000 Clio 1.2 and I thought the mk2 was a great car. Some people have an irrational prejudice against French cars around here.
That said, the VAG idea isn't bad (although they do carry a badge premium, even Skodas these days!) and the Mini Cooper is a great car all 'round but I'm not sure you'll get a diesel one which isn't pretty ratty for 2,500.
Pebbles167 said:
What does a newer car represent?
I'd get the older clio. In anything but sport trim it's a better drive. Still has fair kit and looks reasonably modern.
personally think the newer clio looks nicer and the interior is nicer.. I just get the feeling that my Corsa 2004 1.2 doesn't look modern enough to me, and is in the same category as the old clios for me..I'd get the older clio. In anything but sport trim it's a better drive. Still has fair kit and looks reasonably modern.
JakeThePeg said:
Fiat Grande Punto JTD.
1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
That 1.9 is an amazing shout, so what are the flaws of the 1.9 multijet in more detail?1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
Memorise97 said:
That 1.9 is an amazing shout, so what are the flaws of the 1.9 multijet in more detail?
Just on one quote of a Fiat Punto 1.9 I got a quote of £1700 and that's monthly payments which I think is actually reasonable, and no doubt I will find one cheaper nearer the time once I've looked aroundJakeThePeg said:
I don't know I don't own one.
I've heard that the M32 gearbox used in the GP JTD's have weak bearing, usually found by a whining 4th gear.
Plus ARB's are a little weak, but only need doing every 50-60k's
Other than that, you'll have to research them, I've got a later series 2 (fancy head/taillights, different seat design plus cruise as standard) which fixed 90% of these.
http://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/89495-recall... - Fiat forum showing every known fault with the cars, and fixes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Fiat-Grande-Punto-S... - A little over budget, but swapping current/waiting a couple of months should get you into one. Check for recent cambelt changes on both of the cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-FIAT-GRANDE-PUNTO-S...
With £1 change, not a fan of diesels whatsoever so can't comment on this, but looks okay and up for budget.
Thanks alot and yes that punto you linked looks very nice, looks like a perfect buy if the man selling it really is a mechanic, but won't be buying for another 6-7 months yetI've heard that the M32 gearbox used in the GP JTD's have weak bearing, usually found by a whining 4th gear.
Plus ARB's are a little weak, but only need doing every 50-60k's
Other than that, you'll have to research them, I've got a later series 2 (fancy head/taillights, different seat design plus cruise as standard) which fixed 90% of these.
http://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/89495-recall... - Fiat forum showing every known fault with the cars, and fixes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Fiat-Grande-Punto-S... - A little over budget, but swapping current/waiting a couple of months should get you into one. Check for recent cambelt changes on both of the cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-FIAT-GRANDE-PUNTO-S...
With £1 change, not a fan of diesels whatsoever so can't comment on this, but looks okay and up for budget.
JakeThePeg said:
Then why not wait 6/7 months before looking? your circumstances may change.
I didn't, got impatient and bought my T-Jet. I love it, don't get me wrong, but had I waited and saved a little more, I'd be looking at 10k cars, not 5k cars.
I'm not looking to buy now, I'm just looking at options and predicting what their prices will fall to within 6-7 months, seems like now it's between the Clio, the Punto and the A3, but I'm slowly drifting away from the French diesel..I didn't, got impatient and bought my T-Jet. I love it, don't get me wrong, but had I waited and saved a little more, I'd be looking at 10k cars, not 5k cars.
Matt100HP said:
On the Fiat theme, I am more than a little biased here, but the 100HP is a much better driver's car than a diesel Punto. Also, it's just as quick to 60, if that bothers you and it's definitely quicker than both your current car and a 1.5 diesel Clio.
I've never heard anything too great (or too bad, to be fair) about the way the way the Grande Punto drives, whereas the 100HP is generally considered to be a good, fun little car. It'd probably be cheaper to insure, too and there's not the diesel bork factor which comes with the GP. As for the VED, they're both a bit extortionate at £180 per year...
If it interests you, I'm 20 and my 100HP cost me £500 to insure fully comp this year. Obviously, YMMV with the insurance companies.
You have a 100 BHP phase 2 clio?I've never heard anything too great (or too bad, to be fair) about the way the way the Grande Punto drives, whereas the 100HP is generally considered to be a good, fun little car. It'd probably be cheaper to insure, too and there's not the diesel bork factor which comes with the GP. As for the VED, they're both a bit extortionate at £180 per year...
If it interests you, I'm 20 and my 100HP cost me £500 to insure fully comp this year. Obviously, YMMV with the insurance companies.
SeanyD said:
Sorry was multi-tasking. We had ours for around 5 years, generally very very reliable.
Only issues:
1. It liked it's tyres, probably around 10-12k per set of fronts
2. Windscreen wiper used to get slower and slower over the course of a year before grinding to a halt, and needing the mechanism cleaning down.
3. Ours had the panoramic roof option, nice, but used to constantly rattle like buggery.
4. Approaching 60,000m and the clutch was starting to slip a bit, that's when we traded it.
Other than that, brilliant.
So now, looks like the Punto or the Clio, Audi a3's are hard to find a lower than 125-150k mileage one and parts are more expensive, need to find someone with a grande punto 1.9Only issues:
1. It liked it's tyres, probably around 10-12k per set of fronts
2. Windscreen wiper used to get slower and slower over the course of a year before grinding to a halt, and needing the mechanism cleaning down.
3. Ours had the panoramic roof option, nice, but used to constantly rattle like buggery.
4. Approaching 60,000m and the clutch was starting to slip a bit, that's when we traded it.
Other than that, brilliant.
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