Lack of 6th gear in 1.6 Zetec S
Discussion
This is on my list to buy for my second car, a Ford Fiesta Zetec S 1.6 Petrol, but I just read over and over about the fact that it does not have a 6th gear and the revs at 70 MPH is almost 4000 which is what I have on my 1.2 currently..
Surely this will have poor fuel efficiency, are there any cars that can compare to the price, the looks, and the power of the Zetec S? Obviously a car with a 6th gear, if you do know a car, please make sure it is a petrol, not anything over the top due to my insurance as I will be 18..
Quotes on a zetec a come to £1300 and it's only 99BHP
Surely this will have poor fuel efficiency, are there any cars that can compare to the price, the looks, and the power of the Zetec S? Obviously a car with a 6th gear, if you do know a car, please make sure it is a petrol, not anything over the top due to my insurance as I will be 18..
Quotes on a zetec a come to £1300 and it's only 99BHP
Matthen said:
Number of gears doesn't really matter - often the ratios are just closer together. You'd be better off looking at the final drive etc. Remember small petrol engines generally produce power higher up in the rev band - the engine sits at high RPM so you can make it up a hill without having to change down.
Ok thank you, 1.5 suzuki swift or Ford Fiesta Zetec S in your opinion??sebhaque said:
Chap. I know you're 17 and ham-strung by insurance, but there's no need to create so many threads about cars you want. Previous Cat C/Ds, derv hatchbacks, buying a 1.6 petrol, and/or buying a Fiesta - why not take the time to narrow your cars down yourself before coming to PH instead of asking multiple times and changing your mind? All it does is irritate people when their helpful advice in your previous topics looks like it's been ignored.
I'm not having a go at you, but only you know what car(s) you like. A bunch of posts on a forum won't change your mind, nor should we hand-hold you through the car decision process either. Go and explore while you can, at your age pretty much all your income is disposable so there's no need to worry yet.
Yes im sorry for that, was just looking for people's personal opinions I'm not having a go at you, but only you know what car(s) you like. A bunch of posts on a forum won't change your mind, nor should we hand-hold you through the car decision process either. Go and explore while you can, at your age pretty much all your income is disposable so there's no need to worry yet.
mrf said:
Saab 2.0T petrol or 1.9 TID
Madness?.....not really...generally saabs are driven by older, well off males...which means they avoid the "young drivermobile" price hike.
I know of someone whose insurance on a 2.0 litre turbo repmobile was about 2/3rds the price of his 1.2 corsa...insurance answer...corsas are frequently written off in crashes.....
plus bigger car..more toys, makes you look sophisticated and a "man of the world" to the females of the species ;-)
I only need a little car mate, and can do with some average mpg on a petrol rather than a diesel because the costs of a diesel are too high to maintain at my age Madness?.....not really...generally saabs are driven by older, well off males...which means they avoid the "young drivermobile" price hike.
I know of someone whose insurance on a 2.0 litre turbo repmobile was about 2/3rds the price of his 1.2 corsa...insurance answer...corsas are frequently written off in crashes.....
plus bigger car..more toys, makes you look sophisticated and a "man of the world" to the females of the species ;-)
ferrariF50lover said:
The costs of a diesel are too high? Is it the half price insurance or the 50mpg that really racks up the price?
You want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
Diesel's need servicing every 6 months, also if the turbo goes, that will be £1200 down the drainYou want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
Hammer67 said:
Micra 160SR. Quicker than the figures suggest. 48mpg.
wow, i received a quote of £1300, which for me is cheap, cheaper than the fiesta with 60 more bhp which to me is incredible, some reason I actually like the micra 160sr because it is different, very good suggestion, thank you.Matt100HP said:
As above, the "160" part refers to the Micra's 1.6 litre engine, not a power output of 160BHP. It's the same naming system used by the Nissan 370Z, for example.
I have no idea how much power a N/A 1.6 Micra makes, but I'd bet my life on it being considerably less than 160BHP.
yes yes, as i said i got too excited for a minute, just read a review, looking like they're poor, a granny car, however if it was 160BHP i would not hesitate to look like a granny until the people laughing see the power of the car I have no idea how much power a N/A 1.6 Micra makes, but I'd bet my life on it being considerably less than 160BHP.
Searider said:
My first car, a Fiesta Supersport which also cost about £2500 (in 1988), was doing 4200rpm at 70mph. 6000 at 100mph.
My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
thank you, it is likely that i will want the fiesta for my second car, i am looking to keep the car for about a year then to upgrade once again, however if i like it too much i will keep it for an extra year.My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
Hammer67 said:
Well, if you think they're poor you'd be wrong. I've had 2. A cracking warm hatch, well built and well specced. Nobody wants them because the 1.6 frightens people off due to perceived high insurance so they're cheap.
They go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
Seems appealing, but the Fiesta has got the edge over the micra in my opinionThey go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
ben5732 said:
Or you could buy an old 90s diesel saloon which cost buttons to buy and insure that if it breaks you hit with a hammer and it works again as stated on your very first thread. Get your first year of motoring out the way with something boring and cheap then get a better car like the rest of us did.
Saab 1.9 diesel (120) - £6000 to insureSaab 1.9 diesel (150) - £7000 to insure
Please stop going on about something that's apparently 'buttons to insure'
TheAngryDog said:
Ffs! Another f
king thread about what fking car to fking buy!
Page two of http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=... says you're going to keep it in one thread, so why the fk do we have to be subjected to this again?
Ffs!!! Just make a decision on a car, buy one and then contribute something less mundane to Ph!!
fk!!
king thread about what fking car to fking buy!Page two of http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=... says you're going to keep it in one thread, so why the f
k do we have to be subjected to this again?Ffs!!! Just make a decision on a car, buy one and then contribute something less mundane to Ph!!
f
k!!Not many people are bothered the other threads were different to this, was mainly about the rpm on the 5th gear at 70 MPH on the zetec s
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