Advice for US native moving to London - Parts, Cars from US?
Discussion
Just thinking hypothetically about the position I am in. I'm moving in April from Miami, FL to London. Obviously in a rush to get rid of my several cars here and all of my other worldly possessions that I see no use in trying to bring with me. Meanwhile, my employer will be covering much of my moving expenses, so I am looking for some rare things to bring along if possible.
I'm very into cars, have owned quite a few interesting ones, and have many good contacts that have come out of those experiences.
Mostly into BMW's (classics are my favorites) but appreciate anything interesting. Still trying to decide on what my first RHD car may be when I arrive in April. Elise 111R? Sorted MGB GT? Another E30? 2002? I'm going to need to observe roads and driving habits before making that call.
Anways, I come here to ask what (if at all advantageous) use my position here allows me. I'm surrounded by american cars and NA only models. Is there anything rare or special that I could bring with? Obviously, I won't be arriving with a crate full of LS1's, but how about rare parts or a US car that I could coordinate the transport of?
Maybe a stupid question. Oh well, thanks for looking.
I'm very into cars, have owned quite a few interesting ones, and have many good contacts that have come out of those experiences.
Mostly into BMW's (classics are my favorites) but appreciate anything interesting. Still trying to decide on what my first RHD car may be when I arrive in April. Elise 111R? Sorted MGB GT? Another E30? 2002? I'm going to need to observe roads and driving habits before making that call.
Anways, I come here to ask what (if at all advantageous) use my position here allows me. I'm surrounded by american cars and NA only models. Is there anything rare or special that I could bring with? Obviously, I won't be arriving with a crate full of LS1's, but how about rare parts or a US car that I could coordinate the transport of?
Maybe a stupid question. Oh well, thanks for looking.
daveofedinburgh said:
As a Scotsman who has lived in London for 4 years, and has lots of family (and therefore regularly visit the US) I can hopefully make a useful contribution here.
Every time I visit the US I tend to opt immediately for a huge, comfortable 4x4 (SUV!) or a big engined Mustang or similar. This is based purely on the novelty of having huge roads and car-friendly infrastructure, and lovely cheap gas prices.
The main differences here are that the roads/ infrastructure are much less accommodating for larger vehicles, and gas prices are depressingly high (although currently sitting uncharacteristically low). Ofcourse it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work these things out, but these really are your main considerations.
The fact that you are looking at Elises, MGs, E30s etc tells me that you won't have much of an issue. Small, compact, relatively economical and able to entertain when you escape the city is exactly what you'll want. Are these your genuine preferences, or are you pandering to the hard-nosed PHers a little?! ;-)
I guess it's dependant on where you are in London. I lived in Chiswick when I first moved to the big city, which is relatively central. I had a couple of mk1 MX5s, which were utterly perfect for that area. I now live in north London (if you can call Watford 'north London'!) and could easily run pretty much any car I like without issue. Outer, more suburban areas like this aren't much different to most other parts of the UK, provided your not planning to drive into the city regularly.
Do you really want to be in something like an Elise every day? Great proposition as a weekend car, but unless you've got short legs it won't be much fun as a daily. If you do have a nasty London commute, consider auto vs stick- I bought my second MX5 because it was an auto, clutching in the North Circular traffic every day just became a bit too much.
Don't compromise too much though, once your out of the city there are some really wonderful driving roads down here, although maybe not quite enough to rival Scotland! Assuming a city commute, I'd suggest 2 cars may work better for you. You may well find one car in the 'sweet spot', but its not an easy ask. Also worth bearing in mind that parking is much less plentiful over here- even in Watford there aren't many people who have space for 2 or more cars. As mentioned, LHD cars don't really fly over here, although I personally don't care!
Whatever you end up with, keep posting and let us know. Willing to bet you'll love London, an amazing city to live in!
Thanks for the contribution. Very helpful indeed.Every time I visit the US I tend to opt immediately for a huge, comfortable 4x4 (SUV!) or a big engined Mustang or similar. This is based purely on the novelty of having huge roads and car-friendly infrastructure, and lovely cheap gas prices.
The main differences here are that the roads/ infrastructure are much less accommodating for larger vehicles, and gas prices are depressingly high (although currently sitting uncharacteristically low). Ofcourse it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work these things out, but these really are your main considerations.
The fact that you are looking at Elises, MGs, E30s etc tells me that you won't have much of an issue. Small, compact, relatively economical and able to entertain when you escape the city is exactly what you'll want. Are these your genuine preferences, or are you pandering to the hard-nosed PHers a little?! ;-)
I guess it's dependant on where you are in London. I lived in Chiswick when I first moved to the big city, which is relatively central. I had a couple of mk1 MX5s, which were utterly perfect for that area. I now live in north London (if you can call Watford 'north London'!) and could easily run pretty much any car I like without issue. Outer, more suburban areas like this aren't much different to most other parts of the UK, provided your not planning to drive into the city regularly.
Do you really want to be in something like an Elise every day? Great proposition as a weekend car, but unless you've got short legs it won't be much fun as a daily. If you do have a nasty London commute, consider auto vs stick- I bought my second MX5 because it was an auto, clutching in the North Circular traffic every day just became a bit too much.
Don't compromise too much though, once your out of the city there are some really wonderful driving roads down here, although maybe not quite enough to rival Scotland! Assuming a city commute, I'd suggest 2 cars may work better for you. You may well find one car in the 'sweet spot', but its not an easy ask. Also worth bearing in mind that parking is much less plentiful over here- even in Watford there aren't many people who have space for 2 or more cars. As mentioned, LHD cars don't really fly over here, although I personally don't care!
Whatever you end up with, keep posting and let us know. Willing to bet you'll love London, an amazing city to live in!
Our highways here in FL are wide, long, straight, and extremely boring. Living in PA was much more enjoyable for driving pleasure. Everything here in FL is a long straight-away or a 6 lane wide local route. It's just a tremendous, disappointing grid.. look at it on the map!
With that being said, a large, comfortable car is typically my choice around here too.. the only reason I won't buy one is because it's just me driving around alone 95% of the time.
I am actually quite a bit partial to those cars, yes
. I am short (5'6") and won't be driving around for work, especially not within London. My car may be used for work occasionally, but only when I need to drive somewhere to meet our customers outside London.I say an E30 because I just had to let go of my '87 convertible E30 (Early model - slim tails). It had a few things done to it here and there but I hadn't dug into the project much before being informed of the job opportunity. Mainly just a rebuilt M20, fresh head, Racing Dynamics Headers (NOS) coated in CeramicX, and a very nice, catless exhaust with B&B Tri-Flos and an 18" Vibrant resonator. It sounded beautiful. (I love the emissions standards in Florida - anything goes. Absolutely anything.) It might be fun to hop into an E30 touring with an M20 or a swap. They are very sought after over here lately since the ones that are 25 and older are now legal to import and register.
Elise, because I loved driving my friends 2005 Elise when he had it. The UK 111R Elise S2 is the same thing as the one we got over here.. I guess Lotus called it the Federal Elise.. to us it was just known as the Elise. No other trim levels available. Additionally, if you are lucky enough to find a well maintained example, say a 2005, it will cost you upwards of 25000GBP. They aren't cheap here. From what I see for sale, I can find a very nice 111R there for under 20k.
Lastly, an MGB GT because it would be a blast.. easily. My father's very first car here in the US was a '68 MGB Roadster. The MGB GT's are pretty hard to find here. In my life, I have never seen one on the road. A GT with a swap or V8 would be very interesting.. especially if it were track suitable.
In addition to unloading my E30 vert, I am currently selling off my '00 Z3 M Roadster (Makes 450WHP with a turbo S52, Precision SC61, lots of work done) and my daily... wait for it.. '00 Honda Insight - yes, the space shuttle looking one. And yes, it was quite a bit modified too, but not to go fast, more for efficiency and preventive maintenance. In my current role I drive about 35,000 miles for work a year. The Insight was a necessity for that. The other cars don't get used for work related stuff. I'll be assuming a new role in London and won't need to drive much if at all.. so a weekend car would be preferable as my only car.
Getting back to my main reason for creating this thread, I was kind of curious if there was any demand for any older US only cars.. but it seems like the market for classics is pretty well permeated to suit the demand for them. I have to admit though, I have a lot of good contacts here in FL (huge classic car buff population) that have all sorts of interesting stuff for sale every now and then. To my knowledge the classics are easier to import and register than trying to make a late model, USDM, LHD car road compliant in the UK. But importing/exporting a complete car is no easy task no matter how you put it. I'd really need to experience the car culture over there for a year or so before making that kind of call.
Same sort of situation applies to rare or USDM only parts.. Obviously I'm not thinking of freighting in a container full of LS1's, but figured there may be some rare stuff here that certain circles of enthusiasts there are always seeking.
For example, here, in my large circle of e30 friends, the following items are very sought after:
M-Technic 1 lips, aprons, valences, skirts, steering wheels, etc.
M-Technic 2 wings, lips, front/rear bumpers, skirts, etc.
Anything Hartge - wheels, aero kits, period correct engine parts like valve covers, exhaust, etc.
Anything BBS (probably just as high a demand for BBS anywhere you go in the world)
Euro S50B32's
Alpina parts
E-Code headlights (Hellas. We call them Euro Smileys and Elipsoids here)
Startec and MHW Tail Light Lenses (Crack free startec's can sell for upwards of $600 USD for a pair)
Euro clusters, Euro only parts, etc. There's a lot of other stuff but that's a bit off the top of my head.
So as I arrive, get settled, and start to make my way out to car shows, I think I will gain a better understanding of what USDM parts and cars may be popular there. Until then I will keep planning on my first UK car purchase!
Thanks again
Jabosoc said:
I can't offer any advice other than if you do choose a BMW when you get over here, then BMW Car Club GB is an excellent club to be a part of.
Aside from that, best of luck with the move!
Thanks. Never saw that site. I hav ebeen a member of e30zone for years but not too much activity there. Here we have bimmerforums.net, r3vlimited.com, and e30tech.comAside from that, best of luck with the move!
V8forweekends said:
Welcome, I really hope you like it here - the biggest difference is going to be driving habits and traffic volumes. London is unlike most US cities in terms of traffic.....
Very nice primer. Thanks for the welcome and the link to the classics mag. Can't wait to get there and start checking out the UK car scene. April should be a very good time of year for me to move.. hopefully allows me time to get settled and experience the start of summer and such.ecsrobin said:
Will you have space in the shipping container after you fill it with iPads? http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
And don't forget to post in the food forum as the most money will be made on American cereals and sweets. I'll buy all your smores pop tarts.
LMAOAnd don't forget to post in the food forum as the most money will be made on American cereals and sweets. I'll buy all your smores pop tarts.
Finally found a buyer for all those pop-tarts..
I can only imagine if Kellogg's made pop-tarts in the UK.. Would it be a far stretch to think that Marmite filled pop-tarts with mango chutney icing would be a potential flavor?
Edited by element6 on Tuesday 6th January 22:08
NNH said:
If you live inside the zone, you get a 90% discount by paying annually. If you don't live in the zone, you'd be pretty much mad to want to drive there anyway
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-ch...
Many London boroughs also have an annual or monthly charge for residents to park on the street, which offers a big saving on non-residents' rates. Pollution charge only applies to large commercial vehicles (currently), but annual car tax is determined by fuel efficiency rather than car value.
One of the bigger concerns of mine to affect a decision on first UK car purchase. Thanks for the info!https://www.tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-ch...
Many London boroughs also have an annual or monthly charge for residents to park on the street, which offers a big saving on non-residents' rates. Pollution charge only applies to large commercial vehicles (currently), but annual car tax is determined by fuel efficiency rather than car value.
Jabosoc said:
Pics of the Z3M and Insight please. Two cars that are high on my list of stuff to own. Did the US spec Z3M use the proper Euro-spec S50 or the mildly fettled and stroked M52?
Oh, and with regard to shows, get yourself to Retro Rides Gathering at Shelsley Walsh in August.
Thanks!Oh, and with regard to shows, get yourself to Retro Rides Gathering at Shelsley Walsh in August.
No, we don't get the Euro S50B32 here.. it's one of those highly desired things that many E30 and E36 fans in the US wish for. On the other hand.. we got the S54.. and they are pretty cheap to buy for a swap nowadays.. so not a horrible trade-off.
The US Z3 M made before mid-2000 had the S52B32. Mine is turboed of course and made over 450HP at the wheels. After mid-2000 all Z3 M's had the S54. Those ones are the most sought after.. especially an S54 M Coupe. They typically go for between $30k and $40k USD.
Here's the Z3M (these pics were taken right before I bought it from the PO in Pennsylvania):
and here is the most recent ones I have of the Insight:
I recently had the Insight painted in BMW Sapphire black metallic. Somebody rear-ended me in Miami about a year ago
5 USA said:
Living in London the biggest question is probably "do you need a car at all?". A lot of people just use taxis and public transport, renting a car when they need one for weekend away or whatever.
PS You'll be needing a Vette then!
Glad someone subscribes to my philosophy on car ownership PS You'll be needing a Vette then!
Nick Grant said:
If you get homesick for snacks and drinks... http://www.americansoda.co.uk/
Yikes, what a collection..rcspeirs said:
Do you know where you'll be living? Properties with secure garageing in London are rare (and therefore expensive). Street parking is common, but usually permit controlled. There are more permits issued than spaces available in many areas.
Insurance costs may come as a shock. The whole insurance system is totally different. A policy that allows you to drive multiple vehicles (which I believe us common in the US) is almost impossible to obtain here, especially for someone that has no driving history. And UK insurers are likely to ignore your US record and treat you as a high risk 'unknown'.
I'll be living in Zone 1 no matter what.. likely somewhere accessible to Canary Wharf but not too close. So far Shoreditch and Bethnal Green are appealing to me the most. I'm also interested in Camden Town too, but it may be too far away.Insurance costs may come as a shock. The whole insurance system is totally different. A policy that allows you to drive multiple vehicles (which I believe us common in the US) is almost impossible to obtain here, especially for someone that has no driving history. And UK insurers are likely to ignore your US record and treat you as a high risk 'unknown'.
Insurance is another thing I am fearing. Florida insurance is extremely cheap. I'm not sure if the following will make sense to a UK resident.. but I'll give it a try.
For only the '00 Honda Insight on my insurance policy, where I live, with Progressive (name of insurance company), I pay the upfront 6-month fee of about $513 USD. (~339 GBP)
That price gets me coverage levels of $50,000/$100,000.
Which means;
Property damage coverage of $50,000 each accident.
Bodily Injury Liability of $50,000 each person or $100,000 each accident
Coverage against an uninsured motorist in the amount of $50,000 each person or $100,000 each accident
Personal Injury Protection (PIP) in the amount of $10,000 per accident payable to Named Insured and/or Resident Relatives if hurt in an accident. - Side note: I have very good health insurance (we don't have NHS here) so I don't really need PIP. My personal health insurance will cover most accident related injuries.
Comprehensive coverage with a $250 deductible - Means that if my car is damaged by weather, theft, a riot, or if I hit a cow (hypothetically speaking.. I don't hit cattle often) and my car requires repairs as a result, I only have to pay the first $250 of the repairs. Insurance covers the rest
Collision coverage with a $250 deductible - means that if I hit someone, crash my car into a Wal-Mart (why not?), or someone crashes into my poor Insight again, I would only be liable for the first $250 in repair costs towards my car.
Not a bad deal I guess
Much cheaper than what I paid for insurance living in PA.Edited by element6 on Wednesday 7th January 06:34
Edited by element6 on Wednesday 7th January 06:36
daveofedinburgh said:
Green with envy here! Any of those areas you mentioned will be fantastic places to live.
Im looking at those areas (and various others) for when I qualify as an Optometrist, hopefully in early 2016.
Deptford is an area which is very good for access to Canary Wharf (just over the river). It's an 'up-and-coming' area, with tons of new-builds springing up, some of which offer views of the city and secure underground parking for not much money (relatively speaking!). Doesn't quite have the glamour of Camden though...
If parking your pride-and-joy looks like it may be an issue in these areas, somewhere like Deptford may provide a nice solution.
Already picturing myself rolling through the gates of my secure carpark in my *insert gorgeous, usable classic car here*, then popping out onto my balcony and enjoying a nice Rioja while taking in the views.
HahaIm looking at those areas (and various others) for when I qualify as an Optometrist, hopefully in early 2016.
Deptford is an area which is very good for access to Canary Wharf (just over the river). It's an 'up-and-coming' area, with tons of new-builds springing up, some of which offer views of the city and secure underground parking for not much money (relatively speaking!). Doesn't quite have the glamour of Camden though...
If parking your pride-and-joy looks like it may be an issue in these areas, somewhere like Deptford may provide a nice solution.
Already picturing myself rolling through the gates of my secure carpark in my *insert gorgeous, usable classic car here*, then popping out onto my balcony and enjoying a nice Rioja while taking in the views.
A very clear image you've got painted there. Best of luck to you. Time will tell where I end up. I may just end up being in a place like that where I'd have a secure place to park a decent car.
I'm wondering how I go about insuring such a car now.. I'm going to go to a AAA office (american automobile association.. Sort of a roadside assistance provider and travel agency in one) before I leave to get an international driver's license. I have a full driver's license here, full motorcycle license, and a boating license too.. But what I read on one of the UK gov pages is that I won't be eligible to apply for a UK license until I've had an address in the UK for 185 days. So until then, do I need to insure myself with an international driver's license or my state issued one or is there another way to go about it?
It seems to me that insurance will be extremely expensive for me until I am eligible for a UK driver's license. I'm 28 and have a good driving record. But when I put in my details to an online insurance quote site, I'm getting the low, paid in full annual quotes of 4000GBP for such exhilarating vehicles as a 2010 MB E250 Blue Efficiency saloon. Just choose that as it is fairly inexpensive, slow, and common.
Any of you US expats care to chime in on the insurance situation for the first 185 days?
I'm coming over on either a tier 2 general (fingers crossed) or tier 2 ICT visa if that makes any difference.
Edited by element6 on Thursday 8th January 02:26
Triumph Man said:
I remember a US Passat forum wetting themselves over the fact that someone had rescued the 1998 Passat TDI show car, of which there were 2 (?) in the whole of the US. It wasn't even the 110 bhp version!
Welcome OP, and enjoy. TBH I'd happily trade with you and enjoy your big V8s and sunshine!
Thank you! Yes, the weather is nice in South Florida. But after living here a few years, you cherish ANY trip you can take out of state. It gets extremely repetitive with the weather and geography of the state. A great place to retire though.Welcome OP, and enjoy. TBH I'd happily trade with you and enjoy your big V8s and sunshine!
By the way, many of the VW guys here in the US are out of their minds if you can't tell. To compare - I'm not sure how the Apple fans are in the UK, but some of the VW "afficionados" here are equally beyond help. Just a few years ago, someone imported 3 higher mileage, LHD B5 Audi RS4's. They sold within a span of weeks for well over $50k USD EACH. Another example - We only got the 2004 model year Mk4 R32 Golf here (it was assembled in Mexico with the rest of the North/South American VW's. Up until a year or two ago, good examples were still being sold for well into the mid $20k range.
All that for an AWD 260hp car when we have things like the WRX STI and Evo VIII and IX available for less cost in comparison to age and mileage. On top of that, I wouldn't hesitate to say that the MK4 Jetta/Golf/r32 was one of the worst platforms in terms of reliability and longevity. I had many friends who owned them. Nothing but problems - especially with the VR6 models. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind owning a MK1 Jetta Coupe for the novelty of it. FWD or not, they look very nice.
Cotty said:
Another E30? You have to ask? definately.
I love e30's, they are great driving cars. But I can get any variant here. Many people have been importing the EU only E30 touring over the last year or so. If I stayed here, I was planning to buy a resto-mod 2002 in the next year. I just wanted a very clean, original looking 2002 coupe with an M42 for some fun.Grey Ghost said:
The good news..........you can come tunnel running 
The bad news...........FATCA.........but you knew that right ?
Very excited for tunnel running The bad news...........FATCA.........but you knew that right ?
As far as FATCA goes, I won't be bringing any accounts over $50k USD to the UK.
To quote: "Taxpayers with a total value of specified foreign financial assets below a certain threshold do not have to file Form 8938. If the total value is at or below $50,000 at the end of the tax year, there is no reporting requirement for the year, unless the total value was more than $75,000 at any time during the tax year."
We also have FBAR, but if I keep less than $10k in a foreign account, I don't have to report that either.
FBAR
I'll also be attempting to keep my checking/savings accounts with a US based institution.
Won't be buying any real-estate while there.
Cars are also exempt from being reported.
Types of foreign assets and whether they are reportable
jmini23 said:
I would try clements.com for expat insurance in London - surprisingly cheap (only if you are an expat). PS I am in no way connected to them.
Thank you for the tip!Swanny87 said:
Camden really isn't that far and would only be one change to get to canary wharf. No longer than 45 mins. Closer to 30 mins if you live nearer Camden tube.
Good to know, thank you. I still would rather be closest to the office as possible while being able to enjoy an interesting neighborhood. I think Shoreditch might be my best bet if I like the area. The journey calculator say 15 minutes by rail to Canary wharf with one transfer at Canada Water. Also says I could cycle there in 21 minutes.. not bad.fttm said:
US Native , you opening a casino somewhere ?
Didn't know "US Native" held that connotation We refer to them as Native Americans or American Indians. A US native refers to someone born and raised in the US here. It's even used in that respect on government documents, financial documents, etc.
https://www.census.gov/population/foreign/about/fa...
Bluebarge said:
That might be because it doesn't. Miami gets nearly 3 times as much rainfall as London. London is also drier than many S.European cities, such as Toulouse, Naples and Rome.
Was hoping someone would mention that I can deal with rain just fine. From June to almost November here, the humidity averages about 80% all day, every day, and it rains (POURS) every single afternoon and night, sometimes for hours. To be honest, I can deal with the humidity and rain here.. many people here absolutely can't stand it. I don't like subjecting myself to year-round AC in my home, car, and everywhere in between - so I don't. But as I said, many people live in their AC bubble nonstop.Jabosoc said:
I pay £117/year for my BMW E34 520i (also inexpensive, slow and common). It's a 5000 mile/year policy with commuting included - although it's seldom used for that - an agreed value and salvage retention.
Very helpful, thank you. I will probably have to go insurance shopping when I arrive. I figure I should probably bring full, notarized copies of my US driving record from FL and PA. Although, I did read that many insurers ignore US driving records regardless :/Edited by element6 on Thursday 8th January 23:24
Well, I got much more reasonable insurance quotes out of Clements (AIG).
I checked rates with several different cars and they all stayed relatively the same no matter what I did.
I don't anticipate driving the car for work, won't be driving it more than 6,000 miles a year, will own the car outright (I don't like loans or liens), car will be garage kept, have security system and tracking, and will only be driven by me. Personally, I have a clean driving record (except for being rear ended in 2013 where I was obviously not at fault) and I am 28.
The rates for the following three cars all stayed about the same - Right around 2,000GBP annually if paid upfront (which I plan to do). I still think there is room for improvement but maybe I'm wrong.
2010 Mercedes E300 CDI Blueefficiency Saloon - Bland and slow, but inexpensive at the pump and comfortable
2001 Audi RS4 Wagon - Currently my favorite option.. a sensible AND entertaining EU only Audi catering
2006 Lotus Elise 111R - A slightly impractical source of excitement for the weekends and after hours
I have to admit, I want to drive a 325i touring, but I'm not sure I want to own and maintain another e30 as soon as I arrive.. Especially with all the new options opened up to me.
I will certainly miss this though:
Snapped that earlier tonight. Had to fill up the Insight after driving it 450 miles the other day.. On that trip, it guzzled 7 gallons of gas (petrol) at the ludicrous price of $2.12/gallon. I'm ashamed.
I checked rates with several different cars and they all stayed relatively the same no matter what I did.
I don't anticipate driving the car for work, won't be driving it more than 6,000 miles a year, will own the car outright (I don't like loans or liens), car will be garage kept, have security system and tracking, and will only be driven by me. Personally, I have a clean driving record (except for being rear ended in 2013 where I was obviously not at fault) and I am 28.
The rates for the following three cars all stayed about the same - Right around 2,000GBP annually if paid upfront (which I plan to do). I still think there is room for improvement but maybe I'm wrong.
2010 Mercedes E300 CDI Blueefficiency Saloon - Bland and slow, but inexpensive at the pump and comfortable
2001 Audi RS4 Wagon - Currently my favorite option.. a sensible AND entertaining EU only Audi catering
2006 Lotus Elise 111R - A slightly impractical source of excitement for the weekends and after hours
I have to admit, I want to drive a 325i touring, but I'm not sure I want to own and maintain another e30 as soon as I arrive.. Especially with all the new options opened up to me.
I will certainly miss this though:
Snapped that earlier tonight. Had to fill up the Insight after driving it 450 miles the other day.. On that trip, it guzzled 7 gallons of gas (petrol) at the ludicrous price of $2.12/gallon. I'm ashamed.
swerni said:
A world mainly consisting of monochrom diesel fridges.
What's not to look forward to
It's all new and exciting in the beginning. After all, the only things we get here with diesel options are pickup trucks and 18-wheelers. It's been a little better in recent years (with Mercedes and BMW bringing more diesel options here) but we still don't get them all. Our commutes here are a lot different than commutes in the UK though.. that's the price you pay for cheap, plentiful land and sprawling suburbs - Spread out friends and family, added seat time, and high mileage vehicles.What's not to look forward to
My case is a little different than most.. but being completely honest I can say I average driving an assortment of vehicles about 45,000 miles a year in total.
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