Dealers mis quoted previous owners

[anonymous-user]

Bought a car 2 months ago, trade only, signed on the dot. I wasn't shown the V5 but I've just got mine through today, shows 4 previous owners when listed as 3. Does the fact I bought as trade only mean I don't have a leg to stand on?

[anonymous-user]

TheAngryDog said:

Surely you hpi checked the car before buying it which will have told you how many owners it had previously?

No, just checked autotrader using the listing trick to see whether it was a write off

[anonymous-user]

So 4 previous owners to the next owner? Hmmm confusing!

[anonymous-user]

Toaster Pilot said:

Bought a car cheap because it was a "trade sale"

bhing about an extra owner on the logbook

Just fk off.

Knew there'd be one. Paid more than market value actually, just asking a question

[anonymous-user]

iva cosworth said:

Trade sale....."more than market value"

Computer says no.

It's a ZR. Dealers don't like them. So yes

[anonymous-user]

dench said:

A dealer/trader does not go on the V5 as an owner, so OP is correct.

So 4 previous owners, to me, says I am the fifth. It'd surely be stupid if I was the fourth, this is my V5 not the next owner

[anonymous-user]

The Moose said:

Yes. 3 previous keepers at the time of advertising. The current keeper is the 4th. You'll be the 5th.

It's not that complicated!!

And well like I said, I bought it from a trader, not an owner. The trader wasn't listed as an owner. So yes, given the differing responses here, it clearly is complicated

[anonymous-user]

GTIAlex said:

A leg to stand on regarding what? What do you want to happen? What are you after?

Nothing, but it's misleading to say X owners when the reality is different. Turns out that dealers can do that because well, they're dealers

[anonymous-user]

TVR1 said:

If you purchase a car from new and HPI it, it will show as 0 previous owners, as there are none. 3 previous owners doesnt include the person that the car is registered to. In total there are 4 owners. When the 4th owner (with 3 previous keepers) sells the car on, the car will then have 4 previous keepers and you are the 5th owner.

The trader would not be an owner. The person listed on V5 was the owner. He is the 4th owner. You are the 5th.

Always add 1 to previous owner. 3 previous means 4 in total.

I'm also not sure what you are hoping to achieve? Paying more for a car because no one wants them really doesnt make sense. A little background may help with a more accurate response.

To anyone with a brain, a dealer who has bought a car from someone then becomes the temporary owner. The car gets put in trader status, but doesn't add to the log book. By putting 3 previous owners, when I'm buying from an intermediary, implies that I will be the 4th. Just because everyone on this forum has been stung before and now knows dealers like to play this trick does not mean that people buying new should understand this too.

And with regards to the car, I wanted one

[anonymous-user]

The Moose said:

It's nothing to do with owners. It's registered keepers. You can have a car with multiple registered keepers that's always been owned by the same person.

It's nothing to do with dealers doing it because dealers. It's not deceitful at all. On the V5 it'll have said 3 previous keepers. Not 4. He's not deceived you. You've cocked up.

I was only asking a question. Whether people want to look smart or what, a dealer stating previous owners wrongly IS misleading. I'm mislead therefore it is misleading, and a quick google shows other people have wondered the same.