Ford Mondeo TDCi 6 speed Dual Mass Flywheel
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My 2005 Ford Mondeo TDCi has just started to make a noise, like a tinkling, when starting. The garage tells me that this is likely to be the DMF.
I have had the car from 37,000 miles, now done 160,000, is this likely, I assume it would also be worth changing the clutch at the same time? Still on the original so I suppose it has done very well.
I have had the car from 37,000 miles, now done 160,000, is this likely, I assume it would also be worth changing the clutch at the same time? Still on the original so I suppose it has done very well.
The TDCi has been an excellent car. I have owned it for 7 years and this is the first major thing that has gone wrong in the 130,000 miles I have done in it.
It is the 6 six speed and generally averages 50MPG. My daughter borrowed it a few months ago and did 450-475 motorway miles, she got 56.4MPG.
It is the 6 six speed and generally averages 50MPG. My daughter borrowed it a few months ago and did 450-475 motorway miles, she got 56.4MPG.
R2T2 said:
It shouldn't cost £1000 at all.
I had my Clutch, DMF and concentric slave cylinder done 2 months ago at a transmissions specialists for £580, and bearing in mind my Grande Punto is the only one with a DMF, and it took 2 days to get hold of one, I don't think it's too bad at all.
That is not so bad, I really like the car. I was going to stick with a DMF rather than a single mass flywheel on the basis that this should see out the car if I get another 160,000 out of it. Good point abut the slave cylinderI had my Clutch, DMF and concentric slave cylinder done 2 months ago at a transmissions specialists for £580, and bearing in mind my Grande Punto is the only one with a DMF, and it took 2 days to get hold of one, I don't think it's too bad at all.
s3fella said:
Although you are well overdue a DMF, the symptoms may well be the damped bottom pulley, which gets a rattle noticeable on start up and turn off too. You hear it low down on the UK drivers side of the motor.
But if may be a DMF. DMF failure is often preceded by a starter motor failure, the starter motor being contaminated by a horrible black dust, that is actually caused by the DMF begining to fail. So if you have needed a starter recently, and when removed it was covered in lots of black dust and I mean loads!) well the dust is why it failed and the DMF is going to go soon.
howrver, if you've had no starter issues, and no obvious black dust issues, it may well be the bottom pulley squeeking and rattling. Still not cheap, but cheaper than a DMF / Clutch.
BTW, if you do need a DMF, just change the DMF to another well made or recon one (LUK are good). I tried a replaced solid flywheel and it made a mondeao diesel 130 I had very juddery to drive and just not "nice". There is a readon they developed the DMF s for diesels...
But if may be a DMF. DMF failure is often preceded by a starter motor failure, the starter motor being contaminated by a horrible black dust, that is actually caused by the DMF begining to fail. So if you have needed a starter recently, and when removed it was covered in lots of black dust and I mean loads!) well the dust is why it failed and the DMF is going to go soon.
howrver, if you've had no starter issues, and no obvious black dust issues, it may well be the bottom pulley squeeking and rattling. Still not cheap, but cheaper than a DMF / Clutch.
BTW, if you do need a DMF, just change the DMF to another well made or recon one (LUK are good). I tried a replaced solid flywheel and it made a mondeao diesel 130 I had very juddery to drive and just not "nice". There is a readon they developed the DMF s for diesels...
Thank you for your comments, the starter is still original with no issues. I will get them to check the bottom pulley before committing to a new DMF. I was going to stick with a DMF as that is what it is meant to have and I am sure Ford would have used a solid flywheel if they could get away with it.
I will let you know when I get a quote
So it is a dilemma. I like the car and have had it for almost 7 years. It was cheap as a 3 year old one owner car so really it owes me nothing.
If it will cost about £1,000 for the work then can I buy a car as good for the same money? I would not know its history but it could be lower mileage.
If I do spend £1,000 on it I then have to hope that nothing else will go wrong with a car that has done 160,000 miles. What is the life of the turbo and what else is likely to go on a car of this mileage?
If it will cost about £1,000 for the work then can I buy a car as good for the same money? I would not know its history but it could be lower mileage.
If I do spend £1,000 on it I then have to hope that nothing else will go wrong with a car that has done 160,000 miles. What is the life of the turbo and what else is likely to go on a car of this mileage?
S0 What said:
New DMF and clutch kit (LUK) is around the £380 mark, 5 to 6 hours labour on top pluss new gear oil, total should be arond the £600 mark from a back street garage (thats what i charge), £800 at an indi, dealers will be around the G mark for a mondeo.
Thank you, very useful to have some idea of costdme123 said:
Good for you, you could buy another car but you have no idea of it's history and how it has been treated. Get even another year or two out of it for that £740 and it's done well.
Exactly my reasoning,the car is worth more than £740 to me and has just passed its MOT with no issues at all.£700-1,000 as a replacement car would buy something older or a higher mileage and an unknown past.
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