Sensible options for car

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17 and considering getting either a 1.4 Jetta a 1.6 Passat or a 1.4 Golf all would be 2006-2009 models but not sure yet budget of £3'000 considering im 17 at the minute and after 2 years NCB im gonna get a old school VR6. plus insurence for me at 17 will be extra £2'300 NO box that is just wanna get the right car tbh out of the three argh so hard to choose! P.S ignore the fact i want a VR6 after 2 years just saying

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Defcon5 said:

Not sure you will get a good example of any of those for your budget tbh.

High millage i know but FSH under £3'000 isnt too bad its German at end of the day and i will put a new K&N filter to increase life span of engine to compensate for the mileage

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castex said:

Does it have to be a Volkswagen? I'd be looking at sporty French hatches.

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside and i kinda want a VR6 as my second car

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moustache said:

Not sure if serious.

Yes im serious £3'000 will get the car i have shorted listed thats minus the insurence just to be clear thats another £2'300

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Charlie1986 said:

OP why don't you continue the thread on this subject this morning? It was a A3 this morning and the first mod you were doing was getting Brembo brakes done.

Discarded A3 too much on insure tbh for 06 model and will go for the brembos too cause there a safety feature just wanna know what car i should go for out of the three tbh thas all

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Mound Dawg said:

Probably already got the A8 wheels and a hacksaw ready for the springs.

Most of the car gonna stay stock hate messing with things and the Germans build cars to a very high standard, i dont wanna mess with something the Germans have perfected which is why a VW gonna be my first car and my last

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Welshbeef said:

Sorry just to confirm - the insurance on a A3 audi is too much yet you want to change the entire braking system from OEM to Brembo.... New brake servo, new brake lines new braided hoses, new calipers pads and discs You do realise that is potentially thousands on a car worth barely a couple of bags of sand. Also insurance companies will increase the premium for this brake modification

Im going for a VW Jetta/Passat/Golf 06-09 not an A3 anymore plus Brembo full kit £800-1100 safety feature in my opinion help car stop better and safer

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Welshbeef said:

Ok can you confirm your fitting new Michelin Pilot sport and brand new shocks and springs as these will be worn and increase your stopping distance.

Also what's the difference in stopping distance like for like? OEM v this "Kit". ?

Brembo claim/quote 40% overall in stopping distance which will be alot safer for a first time driver like me and im gonna go veiw a few Passats/Jettas/Golfs before i make my mind up tbh

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lbc said:

You asked the same question yesterday.

Why start another thread?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

No body helped me in giving a veiw on what car i should go for so started this one bit pointless tbh no body helped just want an opinion on what i should get for my first out of the three i decided upon

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Welshbeef said:

This is simply not true at best it might be a couple of feet. You've been sold the idea which is tosh.

stock brakes use a single piston in the caliper opposed to three with the Brembo caliper and numerous test prove this reduction plus grooves in the disc repel heat so less chance to lock up which is what a first time driver (Me for example) doesnt want

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Welshbeef said:

And 40% reduction in stopping distance too all for £800.... Why bother with £16k ceramic brakes on the Porsche when £800 is all you need.


OP you should change the springs and shocks and tyres before you think about a full brake system change they will have the biggest safety improvement simply fitting new OEM discs and pads over the worm out items will transform the braking performance & changig the brake fluid annually too.

Thanks for the input im just a first time driver looking for a Passat/Jetta or a Golf and wanna make sure im safer when out on the road

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Ali_T said:

Man, you are hilarious. Stick around, this is comedy gold.

Your mocking that Germans make bad cars! They are good engineers when it comes to cars they know alot more than me and you

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castex said:

And yet you want Italian brakes?

The Italians have strong connections with the Germans when it comes to engineering

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I wanted to know what i should get for my first car now im 17 and this is turned into an argument about Germany and how they work

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castex said:

This does not mean anything.

Basically in a nut shell i wanted ypu guys to suggest what i should go for out of Passat/Jetta/Golf 06/07 Model and i was gonna add to brakes to improve safety thats all. And what i meant is that there made to the highest standards imaginable

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northwest monkey said:

Hmmm. I'm imagining the "entire brake system upgrade" to involve some stickers on the front wing.

My first car gonna be completley stock not messed with just the Brakes will be the exception.

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HustleRussell said:

Don't feed the troll.

Especially the illiterate ones who endlessly start thread after thread about what car they should buy and what they should do with it whilst simultaneously pretending they know what they're talking about.

Thanks for trolling peoples thread hope ypu feel better just wanna know what car for my first thats all someone sensible give some input Passat/Jetta or a golf?

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Matttracker said:

Jetta is a golf with a boot, which do you want more, big opening hatchback. Or a Jetta with a long flat boot. I prefer the golf. The passat is a bit big for a new driver, you might find it difficult to judge where the front and rear is even with the massive
Brembos.

Even with your extensive knowledge of these wonder brakes, the development price that the VAG group spend on braking research probably beats what you know, you really just need to leave them standard and buy decent tyres if needed.
Personally I'd go the golf, it's a good 1st car

Decided upon Jetta, Passat too big and will need the Jetta style boot for work, but thanks for the input

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Welshbeef said:

Why is a Golf style boot not suitable for work?
Any comment re the insurance quotes?

Lastly you've elected the rarest option of the three and the 1.4ltr is a very rare model as it doesn't have the power to pull skin off custard.

£2'200 with Churchill no black box which is good i think at 17 and the 1.4 FSI is the 122BHP model just to add cant be that bad

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Welshbeef said:

So is it £2.2k with or without the brakes modification?

Also how is a saloon more practical than a Hatchback?

£2'200 with Churchill NO black box without any modifications at 17 with full UK licence + pass plus that's pretty good for a car with 122BHP and of that size so going with that