A modern car that performs / handles as well as a Mitsubishi
Discussion
Evo?
After having a few cars since the Evo i dont know what else i could get that would give me the same traction, outright performance and stopping power as my evo used to, for the money? The german hot hatches dont offer such traction, even though theyre now sporting evo'esque power figures. Nothing gave me such confidence and inspired me to want to drive as much as i used to drive mine.
Is there a modern supercar slayer that mimics the evo's qualitys but with a modern element, and perhaps more than 20 mpg?
I need some fun in my life but i cant justify 4500 mile service intervals and 20 mpg. Mid 20's and 10k services would be ok.. Something rearward led and tonnes of traction to boot?! I dont think there is such a thing, is there?
After having a few cars since the Evo i dont know what else i could get that would give me the same traction, outright performance and stopping power as my evo used to, for the money? The german hot hatches dont offer such traction, even though theyre now sporting evo'esque power figures. Nothing gave me such confidence and inspired me to want to drive as much as i used to drive mine.
Is there a modern supercar slayer that mimics the evo's qualitys but with a modern element, and perhaps more than 20 mpg?
I need some fun in my life but i cant justify 4500 mile service intervals and 20 mpg. Mid 20's and 10k services would be ok.. Something rearward led and tonnes of traction to boot?! I dont think there is such a thing, is there?
Tuvra said:
Fettled Audi TTRS
The new FRS should tick a lot of boxes too.
The audi's are just a big bunch of understeery mess bar the b7 rs4 and perhaps the r8.. Both sort of out of my budget.The new FRS should tick a lot of boxes too.
A.G. said:
I know what youre saying but I totally understand where he is coming from.
Im glad someone knows what im getting at.. If only the VAG/Merc '4wd' cars could use proper diffs that allowed power oversteer on their cars and im sure id be satisfied. Its that or i get another evo.
Ved said:
Carrera 4S perhaps? What budget are you planning on using?
Budgets about 20k.Edited by PorkRind on Thursday 28th May 09:08
StottyEvo said:
Do you know what handling is?
The adjust-ability on the limit in an Evo is unrivaled by anything I've ever driven or been in, and that's one hell of a list. The consistency and predictability of the handling are what enables you to drive so fast in an Evo, I doubt cornering Gs are that high at all.
When comparing the the Impreza I always remember a Top Gear back to back, The Evo 8 MR FQ320 against the Impreza WR1. Both 320hp and the same weight but the Evo was 3.4seconds around the track faster, back to back. They aren't even in the same league for performance and in that situation the only differential is the cornering.
In response to the OP, I'd look towards a Golf R or if you want that feeling where the car is moving around you constantly then I'd look towards the brand new Impreza.
Changing the game is also a good idea, a Supercharged GT86 or an E46 M3? Something different from the Evo because if you're looking for a 4wd rally machine nothing is as good.
RobM77 said:
Completely different cars for a completely different purpose.
So what is their application, someone who wants to go fast, look good but who's inexperienced and needs understeer and more safety devices that you cant turn off ?!What, no zero fighter suggestions
Edited by PorkRind on Thursday 28th May 10:43
Ali_T said:
I had a 330S with Prodrive suspension upgrade before the Evo X and, no matter how much I fiddled with the DCCD, it was still too understeer orientated in extremis. They can't hide the engine and half the gearbox being entirely in front of the front axle. Earlier Evos were even better. The X was just far, far too heavy. With SST, it's over 1600kg.
Yeah , im quite partial to the ix's theyre like a modern take on the vi in terms of aggression / modern looks..Yeah, its almost making me feel a bit sad, to think that there wont be such another great P2p car such as the evo..
It was so confidence inspiring, it stopped on a dime, it would allow the most ridiculous overtakes due to the almost instant torque available. It had no hinderance devices flashing at you every 2 mins.
The new focus rs will use something similar to haldex from what i can gather.
The E90 m3 appeals for lunacy, as does a cayman s for purity of driving experience. I guess I just want the ability to overtaken when i want within reason, without it feeling unstable. The suspension on my VI -even as standard was so sorted, stiff enough to not be wallowy but soft enough to soak up the nastiest of b roads.. My audi is the polar opposite, jarringly hard yet, no suppleness, too much mechanical grip and little steering feel so when it does break away the dash lights up like a christmas tree which is distracting and dangerous imo.
Its either going to be ix or a x isnt it. Or just have some fun in something completely new.
It was so confidence inspiring, it stopped on a dime, it would allow the most ridiculous overtakes due to the almost instant torque available. It had no hinderance devices flashing at you every 2 mins.
The new focus rs will use something similar to haldex from what i can gather.
The E90 m3 appeals for lunacy, as does a cayman s for purity of driving experience. I guess I just want the ability to overtaken when i want within reason, without it feeling unstable. The suspension on my VI -even as standard was so sorted, stiff enough to not be wallowy but soft enough to soak up the nastiest of b roads.. My audi is the polar opposite, jarringly hard yet, no suppleness, too much mechanical grip and little steering feel so when it does break away the dash lights up like a christmas tree which is distracting and dangerous imo.
Its either going to be ix or a x isnt it. Or just have some fun in something completely new.
StottyEvo said:
I'll give you your 20mpg but services cost me £57 for oil and filters or £80 if I take it to my local Evo specialist. They really aren't an issue in reality.
The only hard bit was getting hold of a MIT tool for the rear diff wasnt it? I think my local is Norris Designs.
I have to admit, it was an easy car to work on..
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