Do you need anything more than a 320d?
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RobM77 said:
(I'm not sure how CH got 43, but I've just done a 2,000 mile jaunt around Europe and averaged 53mpg, and we weren't hanging around! I assume the new one is less economical).
Really? Did you only watch part's of the video? Perhaps something to do with the car having 3 people at least, loads of luggage and accelerating from 90mph to 130-140mph!RobM77 said:
Sorry, I explained the above in more detail earlier in the thread. Just to recap, we were two up, loaded to the rafters (boot and back seats) and cruising at 85-90mph out of Germany and around 100-120mph in Germany, plus alpine roads at our destination. I expected less from Harris experimenting with the car and having a bit more weight, but I was surprised it was quite so different. My assumption that the newer one is less economical is also based on a poster who said his wife's one is averaging 43 as well.
I very much doubt the newer car is less economical!RobM77 said:
You're getting a bit confused there, both about the electronic lag/latency and the turbo lag. DBW doesn't automatically mean a throttle lag; my 2-Eleven has DBW and no lag (as do most racing cars these days), as does my 320d. It's DBW with modern petrol BMWs that's the problem, apart from the M3. I was only chatting yesterday to a poster on another thread who can't stand the DBW latency with the petrol engines - it's a common thing that puts people off the non-M petrol models. As for turbo lag; that's completely non-existent in the sort of driving I do where the revs are kept up - you only get it if you're off the throttle for a period and suddenly demand lots of power, for example crawling in traffic and then gunning it onto a roundabout, or decelerating for ages and then coming onto the throttle.
I've taken the time to explain my my genuine reasons - if you don't believe it then so be it, but don't tell me that I'm making feeble excuses, especially not when a 330i will do 35-40mpg and petrol is cheaper than diesel - do the maths! (or just believe me, after all I've owned 4 petrol straight six BMWs, I'm not exactly unfamiliar with the differences!).
Forget the maths!I've taken the time to explain my my genuine reasons - if you don't believe it then so be it, but don't tell me that I'm making feeble excuses, especially not when a 330i will do 35-40mpg and petrol is cheaper than diesel - do the maths! (or just believe me, after all I've owned 4 petrol straight six BMWs, I'm not exactly unfamiliar with the differences!).
What about the noise of a straight 6 v's diesel.
ORD said:
Remind me, Rob, why diesel cars don't have DBW throttle lag. I notice the lag in petrol cars but it seems to me to be even worse in diesels (perhaps because they are in general a bit less responsive and the lags all merge into one).
Cos it doesn't lag when you keep the Rev's up, rob says.nickfrog said:
yonex said:
1. A pickup type thing to take stuff to the dump, Carry bikes etc
2. A lightweight fun car
3. A bruising middleweight.
Therefore M3, Caterham and Amarok.
That's all the cars I ever need
Excellent. I agree, perfect line up - I have the poverty version at the moment : M135i, Yaris 1.0 (!!!) and Qashcow.2. A lightweight fun car
3. A bruising middleweight.
Therefore M3, Caterham and Amarok.
That's all the cars I ever need
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