Swap for an R8 ??
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Big E 118 said:
KillyTheSaint said:
Hi, it could get me in to a V10, but I thought the service costs, and the costs if it breaks would be horrific as its a Lambo engine ??
The V10 is a solid engine and has less issues than the V8. Service costs are very reasonable and the V10 is based on an Audi lump from the S8 so well tested.I highly recommend you try a V10 before you buy a V8 R8.
Hughesie said:
Just made the same jump myself, to a V10 Spyder though, stretch if you can.
I wanted lots, and not a lot came as standard, took me a while to find my spec:
Suzuka Grey
Carbon int
Reverse Cam
Park sensors
Cruise
Mag Ride (I prefer it) but can be £600 a corner to replace (already had one replaced under warranty) but no more expensive than replacing the bushes and coffin/control arms on a Porsche
Extended leather
It comes with a Long life service plan so servicing is relatively cheap (similar to my Porsche servicing costs)
They're known to use a bit of oil 1ltr/000km but i've done 5k in mine and its not used a drop
I'm in Oxfordshire if you want a nosey round one.
See my latest post re the V8, thats a dead idea, but might take you up on looking at your V10, will find one nearer to try, cheers in advanceI wanted lots, and not a lot came as standard, took me a while to find my spec:
Suzuka Grey
Carbon int
Reverse Cam
Park sensors
Cruise
Mag Ride (I prefer it) but can be £600 a corner to replace (already had one replaced under warranty) but no more expensive than replacing the bushes and coffin/control arms on a Porsche
Extended leather
It comes with a Long life service plan so servicing is relatively cheap (similar to my Porsche servicing costs)
They're known to use a bit of oil 1ltr/000km but i've done 5k in mine and its not used a drop
I'm in Oxfordshire if you want a nosey round one.
Edited by KillyTheSaint on Tuesday 30th June 21:10
Big E 118 said:
Correct, it was an Audi development of the existing S8 engine for the Gallardo, then detuned for the R8. As far as I know there are no known issues.
Yes I have a V10 but no idea of MPG, wouldn't even know where to look! Published figures are around 19MPG I think, I know they are the same as the V8 which is quite interesting. Internet rumour says the V10 is actually more economical than the V8 but haven't sen any evidence myself.
The V10 has a 90 litre fuel tank which does give it excellent range for a thirsty car. R8talk is an excellent resource for internet research, US focused but they sold a lot more there.
Will try and arrange a test drive, thanks for the information, will not be pursuing a V8 for sure, so will try a V10 next, but if not, will keep 911, cheers for now.Yes I have a V10 but no idea of MPG, wouldn't even know where to look! Published figures are around 19MPG I think, I know they are the same as the V8 which is quite interesting. Internet rumour says the V10 is actually more economical than the V8 but haven't sen any evidence myself.
The V10 has a 90 litre fuel tank which does give it excellent range for a thirsty car. R8talk is an excellent resource for internet research, US focused but they sold a lot more there.
lord trumpton said:
I remember my first drive in the R8 - very disappointed.
To me the porsche turbo is as good as it gets for a car that can realistically be used on UK roads.
I know the R8 is hand built and has lots of Aluminium but lets be honest; it's a big TT for big girls blouses
I actually LOL'ed at that, very good, and I agree to the point of the V8, but V10 maybe ?? We will seeTo me the porsche turbo is as good as it gets for a car that can realistically be used on UK roads.
I know the R8 is hand built and has lots of Aluminium but lets be honest; it's a big TT for big girls blouses
morgrp said:
Having been privileged enough to drive both in a track setting I can merely comment how they feel performance wise and not on the road and day to day. Undoubtedly the 997 Turbo PDK that I drove was hugely fast - quite possibly one of the fastest cars I've ever driven and even on the limit it was utterly composed. It also felt very normal inside - feels like a regular German car (no bad thing in my opinion) The audi on the other hand is WAY down on performance although still plenty quick enough. Despite this, for me the Audi felt the more special of the two - more engaging and certainly more characterful. I loved the feel of it and the interior was nicer than the porsche. Personally I'd opt for the Audi. If you can stretch to the V10 then Maybe Its worth checking out, servicing wise, well I doubt there is much in it between a V10 and V8 R8 and last time I checked Porsches weren't exactly cheap to service either so it shouldn't really put you off
A V10 possibly, but definitely not the V8, was real disappointed in its lack lustre performance, made laods of noise but nothing really happened throughout the rev range ? The car I drove had 79 miles on it so guess it may loosen up a bit, but still ? The performance wasnt great. WIll keep ya posted re the V10Hughesie said:
I'm getting about 180 to 200 miles (driving like Miss Daisy) out of a tank in mine, didnt realise it was a 90 litre tank, so reserve must be huge !!
90 litres = 20 gallons give or takeHoly f**k, thats 9-10mpg ? Driving like miss daisy ?? Big Hairy B******s to that, would defo keep my stuttgart slugger if thats the case ??
Edited by KillyTheSaint on Thursday 2nd July 09:14
Nedzilla said:
I went from a lightly modded GTR (600ish bhp) to a V8 R8 and I've been very happy with it. Yes it is down on performance as it would be with a 997 turbo (lack of torque) but as an overall package and driving experience I prefer it.
I understand how it might feel a bit underwhelming,it did to me at first and you really have to nail it to the red line to get the best from it but this is one way in which I find it more satisfying.
If you can afford the V10 then obviously that's the way to go. I would've too but only had a £50k budget so had to make do with the V8!
I understand what your saying, but it just didnt do anything for me, so may try the V10 next, glad your enjoying yours though, thats what its all about eh. I understand how it might feel a bit underwhelming,it did to me at first and you really have to nail it to the red line to get the best from it but this is one way in which I find it more satisfying.
If you can afford the V10 then obviously that's the way to go. I would've too but only had a £50k budget so had to make do with the V8!
so called said:
All of these engines are manufactured in Salzgitter, Germany.
The factory produces over 30,000,000 engines per year from 4 litres to theoW16"s.
Visited the factory about 15 years ago. Amazing place.
The "over 30,000,000" was from 15 years ago.
30 million ?? Are you sure ? Thats nearly 100,000 engines per day ??The factory produces over 30,000,000 engines per year from 4 litres to theoW16"s.
Visited the factory about 15 years ago. Amazing place.
The "over 30,000,000" was from 15 years ago.
Edited by so called on Wednesday 1st July 19:04
Paul O said:
Can't speak from experience (although I quite fancy an R8 myself), but a friend of mine had a 997 turbo which he loved. Got itchy feet and went for the R8 V10.
My perception (and thats all it is) was that he seemed to really try to like the R8, but he actually liked the 997.
Still, horses for courses - so worth a try if you fancy a change. Lots of Porsches about, you can always swap back.
The R8 has more drama to look at, but probably needs a sports exhaust to make it sound as good as it looks. I found the driving experience more exciting in the Turbo though - but I'd be tempted by the R8 as they look so cool!
They do look the nuts, but after the V8, am seriously contemplating keeping my 911, the idea of switching back is a good one, but I genuinely believe that in a couple of years, I may not be able to afford to switch back, manual turbo's are on the move price wise, and while they will never command GT car money, they are going up, will try a V10, and go from there. PS, saw a 4.0 GT3 RS yesterday at £425,000 - Unreal !!My perception (and thats all it is) was that he seemed to really try to like the R8, but he actually liked the 997.
Still, horses for courses - so worth a try if you fancy a change. Lots of Porsches about, you can always swap back.
The R8 has more drama to look at, but probably needs a sports exhaust to make it sound as good as it looks. I found the driving experience more exciting in the Turbo though - but I'd be tempted by the R8 as they look so cool!
KillyTheSaint said:
They do look the nuts, but after the V8, am seriously contemplating keeping my 911, the idea of switching back is a good one, but I genuinely believe that in a couple of years, I may not be able to afford to switch back, manual turbo's are on the move price wise, and while they will never command GT car money, they are going up, will try a V10, and go from there. PS, saw a 4.0 GT3 RS yesterday at £425,000 - Unreal !!
Although I do think these folk have gone nuts ? 80k plus for a 997 ??http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Hughesie said:
Mine was previously used as an everyday car in to london, its currently on 30k miles, original clutch, 40% worn, i've got all the bills and in 5 years it had about 5k spent on it, including services.
I've been using mine a lot in a short space of time and put another 4/5k on it with a couple of european trips.
Dealer i bought from stuck an RAC platinum warranty on it and i'll save the rest for any bills, the Audi warranty is around £2k per annum, unless you can get it included from a dealer.
My Porsche had in two years:
New Clutch at 40k
All new suspension bushes/coffin arms
New Water Pump
New front rads
New Pads (PCCB so expensive) all round
New clutch master slave cylinder
all belt pulleys replaced
2 services at £1k a pop
Depending on your mileage, i'm looking at cheaper motoring in the R8
Buy well, it will look after you
Thanks mate, will keep looking.I've been using mine a lot in a short space of time and put another 4/5k on it with a couple of european trips.
Dealer i bought from stuck an RAC platinum warranty on it and i'll save the rest for any bills, the Audi warranty is around £2k per annum, unless you can get it included from a dealer.
My Porsche had in two years:
New Clutch at 40k
All new suspension bushes/coffin arms
New Water Pump
New front rads
New Pads (PCCB so expensive) all round
New clutch master slave cylinder
all belt pulleys replaced
2 services at £1k a pop
Depending on your mileage, i'm looking at cheaper motoring in the R8
Buy well, it will look after you
Big E 118 said:
Through bad operation you can burn through an R8 clutch pretty quickly but you can sat that about most cars. The majority of clutch issues with the R8 are the R-Tronic cars and this tends to be where the computer partially engages a gear while creeping or trying to hold the car on a hill for a long time. Regular abuse will shorten the clutch life. Manual issues are just due to a poor driver.
It is advised to get a clutch wear reading before you buy so you know where you are starting.
Apparently Audi will contribute to clutch replacements if the mileage is unusually low and it's an approved used car.
Personally I wouldn't use the R8 as a daily driver if you're just sitting in heavy traffic, a nice country run each day it will be fine.
If you want an R-Tronic I'm selling mine at the end of September (ironically to move to a 911!) with 13 months Audi Warranty remaining, all the usual V10 extra bits as well as extended leather, i-pod connectivity and carbon ceramic brakes....
Thanks for the advice, but I would buy a manual car if any, the autos dont really do it for me, although I hear the S-tronic is pretty good. Good luck selling, what 911 you getting ??It is advised to get a clutch wear reading before you buy so you know where you are starting.
Apparently Audi will contribute to clutch replacements if the mileage is unusually low and it's an approved used car.
Personally I wouldn't use the R8 as a daily driver if you're just sitting in heavy traffic, a nice country run each day it will be fine.
If you want an R-Tronic I'm selling mine at the end of September (ironically to move to a 911!) with 13 months Audi Warranty remaining, all the usual V10 extra bits as well as extended leather, i-pod connectivity and carbon ceramic brakes....
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