M25 crash 30th June 2015 Surrey?

M25 crash 30th June 2015 Surrey?

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Pan Pan Pan

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Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Does anyone have any details on the incident which occurred yesterday involving twos cars and a HGV in which a driver was seriously injured?
The crash blocked the anti clockwise carriageway (and many of the surrounding roads) for miles, and hours.
I understand that careful investigation of a crash site is necessary, and the safety of the victims, and personnel dealing with the incident is paramount, but why do they take so much time to deal with these (far from rare) incidents, and why do they seem to use the policy of shutting the road at the drop of a hat (completely on many occasions) as the first response?
I have been stopped for hours on the M25 for minor incidents (in one case just a car on the hard shoulder with a flat tyre FFS!) Surely their main priority must be to do all possible to keep as much of the road open as possible, or keep it shut for the absolute minimum period of time.
Also the poor quality control of the diverted traffic makes these incidents much worse and hugely more expensive for the country as a whole, than they otherwise might be.

I witnessed a (much more serious) accident than the one on M25 yesterday, take place just in front of me on a French motorway. This involved many more vehicles, where I was able to observe the actions of their emergency services. The road was kept shut for the absolute minimum time (no more than 25 minutes) it took to rescue the victims, take detailed measurements, and collect evidence, and shift the damaged vehicles off the road (which I assumed would be collected at a later less busy time) and get the road flowing again. That does not `seem' to be the priority on the M25.
Why do the authorities hear `seem' to want to make a such dogs breakfast of almost every incident?

Pan Pan Pan

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9,915 posts

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Wednesday 1st July 2015
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I don't want the people who have to deal with these incidents to be exposed to any more risk, than they already have to, but it seems that there is too little emphasis on the need to get the road open again as soon as possible, and more on gathering every bit of evidence to the extent of them wandering around the carriageway for ages.
Accidents happen, and they happen all the time, we know that, and we know they have to be dealt with as comprehensively as possible, but it seems the authorities do not take into account the effects of them on the hundreds of thousands of people (and the cost to UK PLC) of shutting and keeping the road
shut for longer than is `really' necessary.
It seems to be an attitude of `This road is shut, and it will remain shut for as long as we want it to, and if you are held up by the incident that is just tough. The people dealing with these incident have to be there, that is their job, they don't have to be anywhere else, but everyone else caught up in it, do have to be somewhere else, and it seems that for that for the authorities dealing with these incidents, this is the very first thing they forget.