Should people who crash be punished more

Should people who crash be punished more

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surveyor

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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In this country it seems accepted often that a crash is sufficient punishment and drivers often face no recupursions other than insurance costs etc.

But then you look at the chaos these muppets cause on the road network. In the summer it multiplies as people who should not go near our motorways do, and promptly crash into each other. Usually on a Friday afternoon.

Should there be a much harsher punishment for those involved?

There's an argument that some will make that the innocent party should not be punished, but in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.

surveyor

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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e21Mark said:
Seems there are still way too many folk who don't see the harm in using their phones, or being overly aggressive in their driving, so maybe we should concentrate on sorting those out first? There was a post on here last year, along the lines of ''I'm more than capable of driving and using my phone'', as if the laws only need apply to others. It's attitudes like that which need to be addressed first. Accidents happen, but it's the reasons behind them that should dictate the punishment, if indeed there needs to be one.
Phones are a thorny issue, but at present more and more bits of the car are designed around our smartphones. Legislation really should catch up, along with manufacturers making systems that allow the use of the handset to do so legally with a holder.

But it's not a phone call that causes the crash. It's the driver not paying attention.

surveyor

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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I'm aware of my mistakes, I don't however believe I have left accidents in my wake.

I do thi though that drivers who cause miles and miles of traffic, and delay thousands of people, should have their responsibility examined and challenged.

I'd go as far to argue that if there is an offence the punishment should be doubled if it resulted in a collision.

Harsh? Maybe, but I'm sick of people causing chaos by crashing into each other, when everyone around them manages not to. It's absoluty worse k the summer when less travelled drivers join the motorway network.

surveyor

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Sunday 2nd August 2015
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A couple of points to generally redirect things.

First of all, my totally inaccurate surveys indicates most motorway crashes seem to involve artics, or perhaps more 'normal' cars. It's relatively rare (though not unheard of) for it to be a PH'er going for broke in a sports car. They are probably on a B road, or perhaps better drivers generally, being more interested in the art of driving. Contentious? maybe.

Secondly

One idea on the thread I think is marvellous. It takes away the punishment angle (that I am uneasy with) and turns it educational. That idea is after being involved in such a bump you should have to have mandatory driving assessments from a qualified individual (preferably an advanced instructor, not a 'DSA' instructor. The odd person might be completely not to blame, but they will still learn, the ones who perhaps need more instruction on the motorway can be picked up and sorted.


surveyor

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Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Yup. Here we go again.

surveyor

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Friday 7th August 2015
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Pete317 said:
Moonhawk said:
Pete317 said:
And prosecuting people for having a bump isn't going to make it any less wrong that you can lose your licence for going a few MPH over an arbitrary limit 4 times.
Didn't say it would - but surely "actually causing an accident" should be treated more seriously that "potential to cause an accident".
Do we really want a whole raft of new offences of the type: "Causing damage by careless driving", etc?
How about a crash involvement dictates 2 hours of advanced instruction?

surveyor

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Friday 7th August 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
I would much rather share the roads with people who have had accidents than anyone thick enough to believe they were above it.
Who said that?

surveyor

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Friday 7th August 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
surveyor said:
jamieduff1981 said:
I would much rather share the roads with people who have had accidents than anyone thick enough to believe they were above it.
Who said that?
Isn't that the general gist?
Nope. Just that perhaps people who have been involved a crash a) depending on where it happens inconvenience a lot of people and b) see few ramifications beyond an insurance claim.

Consequently should the ramifications be greater in either punishment or re-education.