Porsche Cayman 981 2.7 PDK, 2013-on. Is it too slow?
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The thread on the Porsche forum has made me interested in the wider view about this car. In your view, as a current top notch sports car, is way less bhp than many hot hatches now kick out simply too little and does the engine therefore fall short? Over 100 bhp below the latest Merc A series AMG? About the same below an RS3? 6 seconds to 60 when you can buy a Golf which does it in 4.8?
Or is power and acceleration unimportant and getting left behind by a hatchback, lights to lights and out of roundabouts, etc. really not the point with a 2 seater thoroughbred like the Cayman?
I ask because it seemed to split opinion big time on another smaller forum.
Or is power and acceleration unimportant and getting left behind by a hatchback, lights to lights and out of roundabouts, etc. really not the point with a 2 seater thoroughbred like the Cayman?
I ask because it seemed to split opinion big time on another smaller forum.
ChrisRS6 said:
I've just had a Boxser 2.7 PDK (265 bhp think?)as a courtesy car while Panamera was in for work.
Believe me it's sloooowwww and gutless!!!
I assume the Cayman is the same engine?
Although I will admit handling was great and more than made up for lack of torque etc etc.
It has 275 ps, 271 bhp, 10 more than the convertible.Believe me it's sloooowwww and gutless!!!
I assume the Cayman is the same engine?
Although I will admit handling was great and more than made up for lack of torque etc etc.
I just compared the Cayman S 3.4 from 2008 with the Cayman 2.7 from 2013.
Porsche's own figures are almost identical for 0-60, both around 5.3 seconds with automatic 'boxes. The 3.4 is under half a second quicker to 100 mph than the smaller motor.
The new car puts out almost 20% less emissions and does around 6 mpg more.
The 2.7 engine has 10 bhp more than the 2.9 from 2012.
Not so bad when we view it thus?
Porsche's own figures are almost identical for 0-60, both around 5.3 seconds with automatic 'boxes. The 3.4 is under half a second quicker to 100 mph than the smaller motor.
The new car puts out almost 20% less emissions and does around 6 mpg more.
The 2.7 engine has 10 bhp more than the 2.9 from 2012.
Not so bad when we view it thus?
Edited by CorvetteConvert on Sunday 2nd August 17:35
I have seen very little b******s in this thread, i disagree completely with that. In YOUR view, perhaps, but i do not share that view at all. As on other forums the car really splits opinion, as i said at the start. Anyway...
My personal opinion, having owned many Porsches (including 993/997 turbos and a 2005 Cayman that had 411 bhp and weighed 1150 kgs), is that having driven the new 2.7 it needs shorter gears and 25 bhp more. That would make it probably the finest all round sports car ever sold to the public.
Daily driver, great handling, decent load space, looks incredible, sounds fantastic, top quality, low depreciation, good fuel economy, to name just a few assets.
The easiest thing would have been to keep the capacity at 2.9 litres. I cannot fathom why Porsche made the engine smaller by 200cc. 300 bhp would have been easy with almost 3 litres of 2013 technology.
Thanks for the responses, it's a very lovely car but just feels a little underwhelming when you suddenly decide you want some ooomph on many occasions. You need to constantly hunt lower gears in a way you just don't have to with much of the competition.
My personal opinion, having owned many Porsches (including 993/997 turbos and a 2005 Cayman that had 411 bhp and weighed 1150 kgs), is that having driven the new 2.7 it needs shorter gears and 25 bhp more. That would make it probably the finest all round sports car ever sold to the public.
Daily driver, great handling, decent load space, looks incredible, sounds fantastic, top quality, low depreciation, good fuel economy, to name just a few assets.
The easiest thing would have been to keep the capacity at 2.9 litres. I cannot fathom why Porsche made the engine smaller by 200cc. 300 bhp would have been easy with almost 3 litres of 2013 technology.
Thanks for the responses, it's a very lovely car but just feels a little underwhelming when you suddenly decide you want some ooomph on many occasions. You need to constantly hunt lower gears in a way you just don't have to with much of the competition.
My Corvette, as a comparison, has 566 bhp and weighs 100 kgs more only. (Okay, standard it was only 505 bhp).
I just think time has moved the game on in the p-t-w ratio wars and with manufacturers down-sizing and down-weighting and up-powering, i want to see the likes of Porsche right up there with the very best as it is a marque i adore and always have done. For the Cayman in 2015 to be 100 bhp down on some hot hatches is something nobody would have believed 10 years ago. 5 years ago.
Right, enough on this one methinks. Cheers.
I just think time has moved the game on in the p-t-w ratio wars and with manufacturers down-sizing and down-weighting and up-powering, i want to see the likes of Porsche right up there with the very best as it is a marque i adore and always have done. For the Cayman in 2015 to be 100 bhp down on some hot hatches is something nobody would have believed 10 years ago. 5 years ago.
Right, enough on this one methinks. Cheers.
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