Life after V8Nam - it's the Pub2Pub thread...

Life after V8Nam - it's the Pub2Pub thread...

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fivetenben

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Saturday 19th March 2016
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Many moons ago, late one Friday evening in a pub called the Seymour Arms, some friends and I came up with an idea of such glorious stupidity that it just had to happen. The idea was V8Nam - get a car with a V8, then drive it to Vietnam.

Thanks to said drunken conversation, three years ago this week I hopped into my old Corvette and set off East, eventually ending up in Singapore 5 months and 14,000 miles later. If you followed the trip thread on here, the journey will need no introduction; if not, here are some pics from the Corvette's Asian adventure:











...and there's a trip report here: http://80breakdowns.com/2014/07/23/the-east-is-lou...

Even before V8Nam was over, thoughts were already turning to what the next adventure would be. I mean, how do you surpass driving to the farthest-flung corner of Asia in a Corvette? The answer was a while coming, but I think it was worth the wait. And just like V8Nam, it has a suitably snappy title: Pub2Pub - a road trip from the northernmost bar on the planet, to the southernmost.



So that's the idea; how is it progressing? Well, we're still very much in the early stages of putting this latest drive together, which isn't too much of an issue as we won't be hitting the road until Summer 2017. On the plus side, we have the route all planned out (all 30,000 miles of it!) and are up and rolling on social media; on the down side, we still have no idea as to what vehicle we'll be taking, other than that it'll be something suitably impractical and pistonhead-worthy. As the V8Nam thread went down well, I'll be keeping this thread updated in a similar manner as we plan the trip, find & prepare a vehicle, and hit the road on the longest journey ever to be undertaken by a sports car.

I hope you enjoy following our progress...

fivetenben

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Cheers folks; if the trip ends up being half as memorable as V8Nam I'll be a happy chap.


Codswallop said:
Very much looking forward to following this adventure as well. Look forward to seeing what cars you choose - any hints as to what we can expect?


Predictably, there have been quite a few conversations carried out over a beer on the subject... we're looking at two vehicles again; a sports car and a 4-seater, and there are a few thoughts on what vehicle would suit the trip here: http://80breakdowns.com/2015/03/10/in-search-of-st...

My ultimate ambition for this trip is to source a kit car, build it then undertake the journey in it. Obviously, this would require us to get a manufacturer onboard, something we're working on at the moment, so the final choice of vehicle depends on how that goes. Fingers crossed...

fivetenben

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Slow said:
...and there was me expecting it to be an MX5! smile

fivetenben

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Saturday 19th March 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
Where are the 2 points to visit the 2 bars north n south ?

Epic adventure by the sounds of it.
The northernmost bar is in an abandoned Russian mining settlement on the island of Svalbard, at 78° north, or to put it another way, about 400 miles north of the city of Tromso, in Norway:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/soviet-ghost-...

The southernmost is at Vernadky Research Base, on the Antarctic Peninsula, where they distil vodka onsite and sell it to passers by for $3 a shot:

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-bar-at-vern...

And the route between them? Well, it's quite a trek...
http://80breakdowns.com/2015/04/30/planning-a-rout...


fivetenben

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Saturday 16th April 2016
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Craikeybaby said:
I'm looking forward to reading more about this!
Hi Lewis, sorry about the radio silence; I've been camping in an obscure corner of France for the past few weeks so as you can imagine, progress has been pretty stationary. On the plus side, the drive back to the UK was a vaguely pistonhead-esque experience... https://80breakdowns.com/2016/04/15/racing-back/

PositronicRay said:
Given the route I would have thought one of these would be just the ticket.

http://www.seahorseamphibious.com/
That's a pretty awesome piece of kit! Attempting to take one across the Atlantic would be a bit bold though, although such a feat has already been done at least once. As a honeymoon. And I'm not even joking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carlin

hidetheelephants said:
I'd have thought a Rolls Royce Camargue or a Brizzle 603 or 412 would be a good shout; barking mad, eccentric appearance and gigantic V8 wholesomeness.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 15th April 19:13
All good calls - if only the budget would stretch to such decadence!

Car-wise, I'm aiming for a similar vehicle structure to our previous big trips: A sports car, accompanied by something a bit bigger to cart all the trip paraphernalia around. given that there are currently 5 of us looking to do the whole journey, this set up would be perfect.

So what's the current state of play with the expedition? Well, as we've already got a solid route plan put together, we're currently focussing on building up a decent media following, both through social media and the more traditional outlets, to make involvement in the expedition as appealing as possible to sponsors. Realistically, we're looking to start approaching potential sponsors (both financial and vehicular) about a year before departure, so we've got another few months to get as much coverage arranged as possible - something which is all pretty new to me, as on previous trips I've pretty much just jumped in the car and gone, with the minimum of hype. Still, life's full of small challenges... and rather large ones, such as trying to get a TV production company onboard.

fivetenben

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The Big G said:
Definitely agree about this.

Are any magazines (websites wink) interested in covering your journey as a bit of sponsorship too. This would also help procure a car as there would be a wider readership of your journey.

About to head off and read about your previous adventure as somehow I missed the thread. Looks like great fun, wish I had th balls to do something similar.
I've not approached any magazines directly yet, though I don't anticipate any issues in getting coverage during and after the trip - The AfricanPorsche Expedition (http://bencoombs.net/africanporsche_tripreport1.html) reached an audience of 2.8 million people through all the different channels it was featured in, and I'm aiming to beat that with Pub2Pub.

So, while it would be very nice to have a magazine (or website wink ) onboard at this stage, I don't think it's 100% essential to gain sponsorship, as I already have a pretty solid track record of getting my trips in front of people.

What I don't have at the moment is a track record of generating video and social media content, as we've simply not bothered with this side of things on past trips. Because of this, we're currently looking into the feasibility of getting a TV production company involved, and are starting to focus on building up the Facebook, instagram and twitter following, as these are actually pretty important in a sponsor's eyes. And it's all new to me!

If only roadtrippin' was still as simple as jumping into an old car and heading off into the sunset... as our first Pub2Pub promo video makes it appear: https://vimeo.com/136714225

fivetenben

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Sunday 17th April 2016
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EnglishTony said:
A motorised pub crawl? Now there's a hard sell to a sponsor.

I suggest you turn that on it's head and go for a sponsor looking to promote 0% alcohol beer flavoured driver's refreshment to lads who are keen to male chicken about but without getting bladdered in the process.
This is very true, and is something we've given a lot of thought to.

To offset the negative connotations, we're planning to align the expedition with one of the many 'drink responsibly' groups out there, or even launch our own 'PubZero' initiative to encourage the non-alcoholic enjoyment of pubs when driving.

Additionally, many of the premium spirit manufacturers who would be a good match for sponsorship already have their own responsible drinking campaigns which the trip could promote; for instance here's Diagio's: https://www.drinkiq.com/en-gb/

So, while the drink driving connotations implied by the 'Pub2Pub' title aren't ideal, there are ways to get around the issue, and maybe even turn it into a positive. It's all about what spin you put on it...

And rest assured, we're not planning to circumnavigate the globe in a drunken stupor - no way will the budget stretch to that!

fivetenben

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Sunday 17th April 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
Further chinscratching suggests that a Citroen C6, Renault Aventime, or Lancia Thesis would be incredibly unsuitable for this trip and therefore ideal for the task.

More V8 wholesomeness complete with fake wood panelling; the car that time forgot, the awesomely awful Buick Roadmaster or its bluecollar running mate the Chevrolet Caprice.
I've always had an irrational soft-spot for the Citroen C6; ditto the Aventime. Their newness counts against them on a trip like this though - the likelihood of an electrical fault stopping them dead in their tracks in the middle of a desert is intimidatingly high. And not just because they're French...

I'm really liking the idea of a bit American barge for the support vehicle this time though. Thanks to the movie 'Hit & Run', I currently have an excessive craving for a Black 1967 Lincoln Continental, and some '60s Cadillacs would also fit the bill rather nicely...

fivetenben

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Monday 18th April 2016
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McFarnsworth said:
Seen as you seem to favour some American iron for this trip, will you be buying the cars in the UK and shipping them to the US? Or will you do the first bit of the trip in different, more European styled, cars and buy the cars for the bulk of the trip in the US?
Assuming everything falls into place and Pub2Pub is another 2-car trip, we're planning to at least take the sports car the whole distance, as we're pitching the drive's USP as 'the longest journey ever undertaken by a sports car'.

As for vehicle 2, it'd make sense to use something we already have in Europe, then buy a car in New York to complete the trip in, but from a potential sponsor's point of view, the continuity of having 'their' vehicle complete the whole journey would be an important consideration which may result in us acquiring car 2 in Europe and shipping it across the Atlantic too...

So basically, it's all a bit up in the air at this early stage - watch this space... smile

fivetenben

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Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Quick update - it's been a fairly routine few weeks here at Pub2Pub HQ, but not without some interesting developments. Firstly, a lot of hard work has been going into our shiny new website, and in a week or two we should be at the stage when we can unveil it to the world. Once that's done, we'll be ready to start talking to potential expedition sponsors... exciting times!

In other news... well, I appear to have just bought a Renault 4 in Slovenia.

While the Renault won't be taking part in the Pub2Pub Expedition, it's likely that we'll be importing at least one of the vehicles from overseas as doing so obviously opens up a much greater range of LHD vehicles for us to choose from. With that in mind, when the chance to import a classic car from Slovenia randomly arose I jumped at it, as it'll make a perfect dry run for potentially importing a somewhat flashier Pub2Pub car from Europe at a later date.

So... I'm flying out to Slovenia to collect the beast on Sunday, and hopefully drive it the 1,500 miles back to the UK over the following few weeks. Wish me luck!


fivetenben

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Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Black_S3 said:
Now that I like!

Despite being ostensibly fairly similar, it actually looks a world away from the Rolls Royce which accompanied the Corvette across Asia. And it combines the dignified charm we're after with a 6.8l turbocharged V8... I approve.

fivetenben

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hidetheelephants said:
V12 Japanese barge insanity, or if that's too much insanity V8 bargeness is a bit milder.
Excellent suggestions - ideas don't come much more leftfield than that pair; I approve. Especially the V8 Nissan President. That actually looks pretty good value, for what it is. Any idea whether they're as much of a complicated money pit as I'm imagining?

Dr G said:
Please get Ariel on board and drive across the world in a Nomad! biggrin
But... I'd die. Quite literally, I'd die. Smiling smile

fivetenben

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It's been a pretty busy month here at Pub2Pub HQ. Firstly, the Renault 4 we bought in Slovenia has made it back to the UK, covering the 1,800 miles home in a week, in fine style and without missing a beat. The full story of it's trip home is here: https://80breakdowns.com/2016/05/29/renaulting-bac...

Since getting back to the UK, we've started the ball rolling on importing the 'Benault', and have also witnessed it fail its MOT rather impressively, meaning we basically have a restoration project on our hands which we've got to complete before we can get stuck into sourcing a trip vehicle.

In other news, if you followed the V8Nam thread, you'll be familiar with the Corvette. Well, it's back on the road this week for the first time in 18 months. And fittingly, given the name of my blog, it broke down on its very first trip, last Wednesday.



The breakdown was caused by the (brand new) rotor arm striking the inside of the (brand new) distributor cap and disintegrating the first time I hit full throttle, so didn't leave us stranded for long, but was still somewhat annoying. From Pub2Pub's point of view, it's good to have the V8Nam Vette back on the road, as it's a pretty powerful tool to show and persuade potential trip sponsors, as well as being physical proof that when we say we're going to drive around the world, we're capable of acting on it.

In other news, we've been hard at work and now have a shiny new trip website up and running, over at www.pub2pubexpedition.com - go forth and enjoy!

Edited by fivetenben on Sunday 12th June 15:08

fivetenben

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g3org3y said:
Did the Slovenian MoT actually need an inspection or did a handful of Euros do the job? I'd be interested to know what it failed on in the UK but was allowed to pass on in Slovenia.
I wasn't present for the MOT in Slovenia, so I'm guessing it may not have been the most stringent check ever; in contrast with the MOT I had done here which turned out to be possibly the most thorough MOT I've ever had done. As I bought the car from a mechanic, I have a hunch he may have been able to arrange a rather lax check-over.

The main issue is that the Slovenian MOT totally missed the (rather well concealed) chassis rust around the rear suspension mounts, which I'm currently figuring out how to sort. If anyone knows a Renault 4 specialist in Devon, I'm all ears!

The other stuff it failed on in the UK isn't so much of an issue to put right - corroded brake lines, wiper & handbrake adjustment, a couple of torn CV gaiters and the fact I hadn't bolted on the fog light on tightly enough...

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Chris944_S2 said:
Maybe lacks a bit in the cylinder count department, but its Italian, RWD, manual, top down motoring, no driver aids, and has a reputation for reliability that would make it quite possibly the worst choice for such a trip smile

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C602096#
It's funny you should suggest that - I was at the Auto Classica event at Brooklands a while back and was rather taken by an '80s Maserati Quattroporte. This one, in fact:





So effortlessly, individually stylish, I love it... almost as much as the Lamborghini Espada that was parked nearby.

You'd be a brave person to take an '80s Maserati on a trip like this though!


fivetenben

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Saturday 30th July 2016
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With just under a year until we hit the road, it's probably a good time for an update on how things are coming along in Pub2Pub-world...

So, what's new since last time?

Well, starting on a slight tangent, the Renault 4 we picked up in Slovenia to try our hand at importing cars is progressing... slowly. The Achilles heal of these cars is rear chassis rust, and ours seems to have taken the concept and ran with it. We're aiming to have it all fixed and in for an MOT in the next few weeks, provided we can find the time.



We've got a bit more media coverage in place over the past months, both in specialist overlanding circles, and more general motoring channels. The most notable piece of exposure is on Clarkson, Hammond and May's forthcoming website - drivetribe - for which I've been selected as a contributor & 'tribe leader'. I'm not 100% sure what this entails at the moment, but I'm assuming it'll at least give us a reasonably high profile soapbox from which to spread the Pub2Pub word...

Now we've got some pretty solid media coverage in place, we've started our search for a trip car in earnest. So far, we've approached several manufacturers of Cobra replicas with a marketing proposal, and while our reception has been warm and everyone we've spoken to has been pretty enthusiastic about the project - and the USP of building a kit then undertaking the longest journey ever made in a sports car in it - a car hasn't been forthcoming yet. Fortunately, there are quite a few kit manufacturers in the UK and further afield, so we've a fair few potential avenues to pursue, with fingers crossed that one will yield an automotive sponsor.

We've also finalised our plan for funding the expedition. Firstly, once we have a vehicle we'll be seeking a headline sponsor. As well as a headline sponsor, we'll also be teaming up with product sponsors, to supply the trip with travel and overlanding equipment which matches the trip's 'lost art of travel' ethos. So far, we've got two of these onboard - eyewear & lifestyle clothing partner dewerstone, and timekeeping partner Croft Watches. Once we have a few more partners, we'll be setting up a 'style shop' on the Pub2Pub website, where in theory people will be able to purchase anything they see being used on the expedition, giving us a revenue stream when we're on the road.

So that's where we are right now - hopefully by the end of the summer we'll have a vehicle and be starting to raise the cash we need to make Pub2Pub happen... watch this space! Oh, and this space too: www.pub2pubexpedition.com

Edited by fivetenben on Saturday 30th July 15:37

fivetenben

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Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Hi folks. It's been a while, so time for another update, me thinks...

There's an old Chinese curse which goes something along the lines of 'may you live in interesting times'. Well, as far as Pub2Pub has been concerned, it's certainly been an interesting few months. And not in a good way...

It'd all been going so well. We'd reached the stage where our sponsorship proposals have been receiving some real interest from manufacturers; in fact earlier this summer we got very close to getting a US-based kit car manufacturer onboard. With just over a year to go before our planned departure, momentum was ours, and everything seemed to be falling into place rather nicely. Except the Renault 4, of course. That was still a nightmare.

But then Pub2Pub was overtaken by the real world. And the real world sucks.

There's a fairly close-knit group of people who go on these big adventures with me. And in August, one of them, a close friend who'd been having a few health issues, received a pretty rubbish diagnosis. Well, when I say 'pretty rubbish', it's worse than that. Bad enough that my initial reaction was that Pub2Pub should be cancelled out of respect, as it'd be pretty heartless to go gallivanting around the globe when someone who'd usually be coming along is stuck back in Britain, barely able to leave the house, as our frivolous 'on the road' updates roll in.

That was over a month ago now, and the dust from that bombshell has settled somewhat. And following a lot of long conversations and soul-searching, we've decided the trip will still be going ahead. We've got some catching up to do, as things have effectively been on hold for much of the summer, but still; as of now, we're back on it. One hundred percent.

And the situation we've found ourselves in has really put Pub2Pub into perspective. Namely, that there are so many more important things in the world than a road trip - people's health, to name a pertinent one. So, whereas we were already planning to use the trip to raise money for the mental health charity 'Mind', as the soul-searching of the summer gives way to the renewed psyche of the autumn, we've decided to seriously up our efforts on the charity side of the expedition, and make it a real focus from now on.

How we're going to do this is explained on the Facebook page below, but basically, we're encouraging people to put together their own Pub2Pub adventures. Big or small, bold or bimbling, as long as the journey starts in a pub, and finishes in a pub, anything goes (except obviously, drink driving...) All we ask is that at the last pub, you 'buy a round for Mind', by making a donation through our charity page, also linked below. So, if you fancy joining the Pub2Pub movement, having an adventure and raising some money for a good cause in the process, feel free to join the fb group, and get planning.

More info here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1148030548607716/
Charity giving page here: http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/pub2pub

We're getting the ball rolling on October 8th, by setting out on 'Pub2PubUK', a drive from the Southernmost pub in the country, to the northernmost, in a predictably eclectic bunch of machines. it'd be great if some other folk can be persuaded to come up with their own roadtrip/hike/kayak/whatever between two pubs to add to the charitable effort. And if your effort happens to encompass awesome cars and memorable roads, please share your adventure with us here; we'd love to hear about it.


Pub2Pub is going to be one amazing roadtrip. That's a given.

Our goal is now to make it a life-changing concept for those in need of help.