Golf MK7 v Audi A3 S-Line v Lexus CT200h

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It's between these cars now;

The needs are:

Auto
Full leather interior
Five doors
65+mpg
Under £12k
Sat nav
Under 100,000 miles (unless its really good)
Less than 3 years ago

So it came up with a wide range of st varying from an Aixam incorrectly described as having a Sat Nav to a Volkswagen Golf.

Being a previous owner of a Golf IV (well it was the missus' , and so is this car, it was her first car, since then she has gone through 2x Mazda 626s, a Hyundai people carrier, and a Lexus RX) it is in my good books.

I am impressed with the Audi A3 - it is just a posh version of a posh version of a white goods car. That being said there is a fantastic S-Line one of the new gen for sale. Looks interesting for what is a bland car.

The CT200h is just ridiculously bland but it is good on fuel. A nice Mark Levinson stereo system, and a cool high tech dash. I have heard the ride is firm.

I'm open to suggestions. It must have all of the above. Also, open to opinions.
It will be used:

Stop start traffic for school run (which includes 1 junction commute on the M25, all the way through Chorleywood.
4am commutes to the high street on weekends, and a rush hour finish
Shopping.

The car will be treated well, with Shell V Power fuel.

Thanks

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Rump

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Well anything over 45 i can live with

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Unfortunately I can't stretch the extra 2k for a base IS, so Golf/A3 it is

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StescoG66 said:

Take a look at a Giulietta with the 1.4 Ma 170 engine with TCT box. Try it . Good fun to drive

I have always wanted an Alfa - its on the shortlist. Any chance for a Busso swap

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T1547 said:

The A3 if it's the new model (haven't experienced the previous one) is a nice place to spend time, particularly in s line trim. Had a new sportback as a company car for a year or so. Interior is particularly smart and feels like a bigger car spec . Quite a bit more special than a golf IMO.

Only gripe for me was the boot size wasn't amazing but imagine that it's in keeping with other mid hatchback size cars ..I just should have ordered a bigger car.

Yes the car I'm looking at is the new model , (63 plate), its in S Line trim with 84,000 miles and all the goodies. It rather looks like the old "Black Edition" model. Smart looking car. It has the TFSI engine that has poke but not very high fuel economy (claimed 55mpg). Boot size isnt a problem as it will not be the daily, which will be my Allroad

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Hump

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rb5er said:

£12k for any of those on 100k miles is madness.

Its the thing with premium hatches - they don't depreciate.

A Golf SE with 40,000 miles - £10k franchise.
An A3 S-Line with 84,000 miles - £11k dealer or £14k franchise.
An CT200h Advance with 40,000 miles - £12k franchise.

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rb5er said:

They certainly do depreciate. For a start in 2 years they have halfed in price just like any other car. Look how much they are then worth a couple of years more down the line with another 20k miles on them. You will be the one bearing the last brunt of big depreciation.

In 2-3 years they will be worth half that again if not less, totally negating the point of achieving 45mph.

Edited by rb5er on Monday 30th May 14:47

Sorry, I meant they don't depreciate as far as other hatches like the Focus. Those have fallen off a cliff.

They have halved in price yes, but they are going to do a job and depreciation is not too much a factor. I would be scared of depreciation for my allroad. That has lost 7.5 grand every month for the last 8 years.

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oop north said:

7.5 grand per month for 8 years... You paid over £700k for an Allroad?!

Yep,
















damn calculator , £750 pcm

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rb5er said:

Depreciation is still a much bigger cost than mpg. I'd rather an old V8.

Just had a look and a 2013 focus is now only a couple of grand cheaper than your list of cars but it was a fair bit cheaper new so if anything they have depreciated less than these.

All common cars, all pissing money in depreciation and all still got plenty of pissing left to do. Mpg is a drop in the ocean.

I can't keep getting 11mpg. The car needs to be rid of.

Power steering pump
O2 sensor
New tyres
New bumper
New boot sill plate
Paint


The car still runs and my wife walked away with medium whiplash from the crash (hit from rear).

The car will be kept for five years at least as it is the newest car we will buy. A trip to cargiant to see some of the models we were looking at. The 1 series did not impress us, as is the boggo current shape A3 as we liked the 8P Black Edition more, the Golf was lovely but then we saw a Cooper SD Countryman - wow it was nice, the wife loved it. The CT200h strongly disappointed- it is off the list. Another previously unknown contender was the new C4 Picasso! Which was ok, considering we were never looking at MPV's! The pre- DS Citroen DS4 was nice too with its high driving position and frugal engines. Last one - the Seat Leon FR , something I never thought about. The Giulietta we also kept in mind and looked at but the models they had were unfortunately extremely basic.
So I went about looking for a Golf as that suited my needs. Plenty of 20k miles VW Franchise cars came up but then this 40k mile from CarBase Volkswagen had everything I wanted. It is still undergoing preperation - which means it gives us time to reserve it after we recieved our initial quote for the damage repair from the bodyshop. Tommorow is when I receive the quote - so its either wait until it dies and pay for the repair or get rid.

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rb5er said:

How are you getting such low mpg? Only driving inner city?? My S60R averages 28mpg combined on my journeys.

I don't drive inner city but the car needs to be pushed hard to go anywhere. 0-60 in roughly 12 seconds and not very revvy

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Mr Tidy said:

Good luck OP!

Can't see how a CT200h is going to compare to the options you quoted, let alone begin to compare with an M135i (or M140i) but good luck!

Err, I was looking at a 114d

But thanks, the CT200h was a disappointment.

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ZX10R NIN said:

The Focus would have cost less new so hasn't depreciated as much as the Audi your showing which would have been near the 28-30k mark the Focus would have been 22-24k both before discounts.

Here's what 2013 cars with high spec decent mpg & with less than 90k on the clock that you can buy for 12k:

2013 Audi A3 1.8tfsi Sport 84k on the clock
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2014 Focus 1.6 Titanium 28k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2013 Seat Leon 1.8tfsi FR 52k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2014 1.4 Alfa Sportiva 15k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2014 Megane Coupe 1.2 GT Line 9.5k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2013 1.8 Civic EX 64k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

2013 1.4tsi Golf GT 70k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Thanks,

The Audi is the one I'm looking at - very nice.
I didn't know the Focus was available in leather - nice.
The Giulietta fantastic. Simply fantatsic. Is it refined?

We looked at a Seat Leon yesterday and we were very impressed. Is a FR on the cards?
Missus is not to keen on the Civic or Megane.

Carbase have a golf we really want. We get our damage quote today so its the decider

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Volvo V40 might be worth a look

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C.A.R. said:

118/116i Sport?

We were disappointed with them at cargiant

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Ali_T said:

allroad one said:

The Giulietta fantastic. Simply fantatsic. Is it refined?

Depends on year. If you can find a 2014 facelift (and by facelift, they mean the grill spars are grey rather than chrome and there is no top chrome rim on the grill!) they made big improvements in refinement. The pre 2014 car is OK but suffers more tyre noise and wind noise round the door seals.

Here's one in price range with a little negotiation, and I bet you can negotiate that down to £12k with ease.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Do they not come in full leather? I cannot find a post 2014 model with full leather and a sat nav

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Ali_T said:

Depends on spec. Some came with full leather as standard but it was an option on all models. Could either be black, red or tan.

This one has it, but Veloces do tend to be overpriced.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Is it that overpriced?

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ZX10R NIN said:

Sportiva's come with Half Leather & Embossed Alcantara

No Sportiva for me then.

I have just found a beautiful (yeah, I know ) Golf at my local VW! Some this you just don't find on the classifieds (strangely, it isn't on AT!). It is one of their "DasWeltAuto" Approved Used Cars, finished in Navy blue with a Brown leather interior with front sports seats. It has 40,000 miles on it and a lot of toys and the 1.6 TDI engine. Haven't seen it yet. It is 12 miles away but one of my local ones (Volkswagen of High Wycombe).