These prices can not be real or buying a car in Turkey
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Hi guys,
I am on the lookout for a 4 seater convertible. I know, I know, the only real convertibles are 2 seaters and the King is the Miata. Yes, I know.
My problem right now is that I am living in Turkey, warm as it may be, the 110% import tax on cars is not the kindest thing the gouvernment has done. Well, they've done it and I have to live with it.
Because of this tax and the stuidly high road tax I am basically restricted to 3.0 liters as the absolute maximum.
What I am looking for in the car is, as the tilte states, 4 seats (the back just for short rides, no one above 6ft will get in :P ) and a droptop. Boot space is not of importance.
Thanks to the import tax cars here are "a little" bit more expensive that in the UK, or anywhere else except for Norway for that matter.
Just as a taste: 2007 E93 320i with no SatNav....45k....Pounds.
So yeah, thats a bit above budget.
Now I never had a convertible, so I do not know the first thing about which are good or not.
Thats where I need you.
Which 4 seater droptops can you recommend, or which are there out there on the market I should take a look at?
FWD is not out of the question, it is just that I would prefer RWD, however it is no absolute must.
Enginewise, I could see myself in both a petrol and a diesel. Just has to have some grunt
So no 318i.
I am open to any and all suggestions in order to broaden my horizon.
Current car is an Alfa Romeo GT if that helps in any way imaginable.
Also, if you are curious and want to know how much your car would cost here, feel free to ask.
I am on the lookout for a 4 seater convertible. I know, I know, the only real convertibles are 2 seaters and the King is the Miata. Yes, I know.
My problem right now is that I am living in Turkey, warm as it may be, the 110% import tax on cars is not the kindest thing the gouvernment has done. Well, they've done it and I have to live with it.
Because of this tax and the stuidly high road tax I am basically restricted to 3.0 liters as the absolute maximum.
What I am looking for in the car is, as the tilte states, 4 seats (the back just for short rides, no one above 6ft will get in :P ) and a droptop. Boot space is not of importance.
Thanks to the import tax cars here are "a little" bit more expensive that in the UK, or anywhere else except for Norway for that matter.
Just as a taste: 2007 E93 320i with no SatNav....45k....Pounds.
So yeah, thats a bit above budget.
Now I never had a convertible, so I do not know the first thing about which are good or not.
Thats where I need you.
Which 4 seater droptops can you recommend, or which are there out there on the market I should take a look at?
FWD is not out of the question, it is just that I would prefer RWD, however it is no absolute must.
Enginewise, I could see myself in both a petrol and a diesel. Just has to have some grunt
So no 318i.I am open to any and all suggestions in order to broaden my horizon.
Current car is an Alfa Romeo GT if that helps in any way imaginable.
Also, if you are curious and want to know how much your car would cost here, feel free to ask.
I would if I could. But even that is heavely restricted.
any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
That's a fair point. I have seen quite a lot of convertibles but nearly all of them drove with the top up.
The thing is, its an itch I want to stratch.
After some research I have some candidates in an "okay" price range.
Volvo C70 T5
VW EOS 2.0
E46 325-330i
CLK200-270 (2004-2006)
Astra convertible 1.6 (2005-2008)
Unfortuantely I have no experience with any of these cars.
Is there anything I have to be aware of with these?
I think I will go ahead and rent a convertible for a week and see how I can live with it.
If I am still convinced and not burned by the sun I will go ahead and scratch the itch. If not, I will switch to another Coupe or maybe a Hot Hatch.
The thing is, its an itch I want to stratch.
After some research I have some candidates in an "okay" price range.
Volvo C70 T5
VW EOS 2.0
E46 325-330i
CLK200-270 (2004-2006)
Astra convertible 1.6 (2005-2008)
Unfortuantely I have no experience with any of these cars.
Is there anything I have to be aware of with these?
I think I will go ahead and rent a convertible for a week and see how I can live with it.
If I am still convinced and not burned by the sun I will go ahead and scratch the itch. If not, I will switch to another Coupe or maybe a Hot Hatch.
Exactly, German cars especially are extremely overpriced here. You pay a lot, and I mean A LOT of money for the badge, especially if you add an "///M" or AMG to it.
E93 M3 for 90k pounds anyone?
My personal "problem" is, I am originally from Germany, so I know how the priced could be so it stings everytime to see the prices here. But, it is how it is.
As I want some grunt under the hood I can not see myself in a 318 or 320 or EOS 1.6.
My list of preferences in the 60-100k lira range come down to the following cars:
Volvo C70 T5 (if the rental convertible doesnt make me think otherwise because the sun has turned me into bacon)
Mitsubishi Evo 9/10
E46 330i / M3 (can be found in that range)
Golf VI R
Audi S3
we will see how it goes.
Anyone want to know what their car costs?
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E93 M3 for 90k pounds anyone?
My personal "problem" is, I am originally from Germany, so I know how the priced could be so it stings everytime to see the prices here. But, it is how it is.
As I want some grunt under the hood I can not see myself in a 318 or 320 or EOS 1.6.
My list of preferences in the 60-100k lira range come down to the following cars:
Volvo C70 T5 (if the rental convertible doesnt make me think otherwise because the sun has turned me into bacon)
Mitsubishi Evo 9/10
E46 330i / M3 (can be found in that range)
Golf VI R
Audi S3
we will see how it goes.
Anyone want to know what their car costs?
Have fun and include us in your fun
https://www.sahibinden.com/kategori/otomobil
CS Garth said:
All due to import taxes. And of course the Norwiegian model of EU membership is being widely touted as a Brexit outcome scenario.
The second "problem" are the comparably low incomes here due to the Lira being so weak.I mean you can have an income of 3500 Lira here and woould live a good life and you would not miss a thing. Except for when it comes to cars.
E.G. a E93 330d. In Germany, for someone earning 1500€ / month, which isnt a lot, this is the equivalent of 10-11 salaries.
In Turkey this car, for said 3500 Lira man (which is quite a good salary here as said) the E93 330d would be the equivalent of 40-45 months of salaries.
So there lies the real amplifier for the problem.
Joe5y said:
WOW!! My £8,000.00 car is somehow worth £78,000.00 in Turkey!!
May I ask which car are we talking about?Trust me, you are not the first one to think of that.
But it is damn near impossible or at least not profitable.
There is a "special tax" called the ÖTV.
It is as below:
Cars below 1.6 liters: 45%
Cars between 1.6-2.0L 90%
Cars above 2L 145%.
Add to that 18% VAT and the car costs basically the same as here.
But it is damn near impossible or at least not profitable.
There is a "special tax" called the ÖTV.
It is as below:
Cars below 1.6 liters: 45%
Cars between 1.6-2.0L 90%
Cars above 2L 145%.
Add to that 18% VAT and the car costs basically the same as here.
I could of course go local
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Schermerhorn said:
Just drive to Turkey and sell them?
Nope, not possible.The car would be seized after a certain period. Every car you take with you will be entered into your passport, so you would have to be able to explain why you came with your car but leave without it....repeatedly.
A Tofaş would be some sort of interesting as a project car, since its RWD and quite light.
But as a daily? Not my kind of tea.
As for Dacia's...
the thing is, I do not "need" a car. We have one in the family that I can use whenever I want so the car I will be buying will be strictly for fun.
Yearly mileage will be something around 4-7000 miles.
But as a daily? Not my kind of tea.
As for Dacia's...
the thing is, I do not "need" a car. We have one in the family that I can use whenever I want so the car I will be buying will be strictly for fun.
Yearly mileage will be something around 4-7000 miles.
I can not be given a car as a present, unfortunately. Otherwise that loophole would have been used.
The cars manufactured here are rather dull. Think of the likes of Fiat Linea, Fiat Egea, Ford Transit Connect.... nothing a petrolhead wants.
Regarding the convertible issue:
We had 38-41C last weekend and it was thoroughly unbearable in the sun. That lead to me questioning how much fun I will be having with a convertible. Although one could argue that since e.g. the C70 is a steel drop top it would still serve as a sleek coupe when the top is up. So there's that.
On the matter of the political state of Turkey:
Yes it appears there was a attempted takeover from a small group within the military which was shot down 3-4 hours later. The country is on its way back to "normal".
Here where I live, some 25km away from Istanbul it was a night like all the others. If you had not turned on the news, you would not have known anything.
The cars manufactured here are rather dull. Think of the likes of Fiat Linea, Fiat Egea, Ford Transit Connect.... nothing a petrolhead wants.
Regarding the convertible issue:
We had 38-41C last weekend and it was thoroughly unbearable in the sun. That lead to me questioning how much fun I will be having with a convertible. Although one could argue that since e.g. the C70 is a steel drop top it would still serve as a sleek coupe when the top is up. So there's that.
On the matter of the political state of Turkey:
Yes it appears there was a attempted takeover from a small group within the military which was shot down 3-4 hours later. The country is on its way back to "normal".
Here where I live, some 25km away from Istanbul it was a night like all the others. If you had not turned on the news, you would not have known anything.
the Renault 12's are nearly gone completely.
It was way worse 5-6 years ago. Then came the TUV and a lot of cars had to be taken of the road because they were not safe....
Nowadays we still have a lot of Renaults here, but rather Clios and Fluences.
I suppose you have to take the good with the bad, I mean the cars themselves are expensive, yes. There is no denying that.
But take my Alfa for example, ı have just had the following done at an Alfa service:
All belts
all tensioners,
spark plugs
Engine oil
transmission oil
Selespeed (sequential gearbox) oil
clutch
All this ( plus some minor bits and bobs) for 2200 Lira. So basically 550 pounds. Cant beat that.
It was way worse 5-6 years ago. Then came the TUV and a lot of cars had to be taken of the road because they were not safe....
Nowadays we still have a lot of Renaults here, but rather Clios and Fluences.
I suppose you have to take the good with the bad, I mean the cars themselves are expensive, yes. There is no denying that.
But take my Alfa for example, ı have just had the following done at an Alfa service:
All belts
all tensioners,
spark plugs
Engine oil
transmission oil
Selespeed (sequential gearbox) oil
clutch
All this ( plus some minor bits and bobs) for 2200 Lira. So basically 550 pounds. Cant beat that.
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