Cars types or manufacturers you would never purchase.
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Are there car types or car manufacturers that you personally do not care for due to image or past experiences?
If you could also give a reason for why you would not purchase.
Personally speak I would not purchase a convertible. This rules out some great cars which are only convertibles. This is frustrating but thankfully you can normally get a coupe. For example Porsche Boxter but you can buy the Porsche Caymen.
As for a manufacture I struggle to like Mercedes. Use to love the older cars which were hand built and many of the 80's designs. Past models can be stunningly beautiful but the modern cars and designs just do nothing for me. My father owned Mercedes cars in the late 90's and just found them poor as a driving experience. Have driven the A45 AMG it also just left me wanting more. The performance was great and also the sound but.....
If you could also give a reason for why you would not purchase.
Personally speak I would not purchase a convertible. This rules out some great cars which are only convertibles. This is frustrating but thankfully you can normally get a coupe. For example Porsche Boxter but you can buy the Porsche Caymen.
As for a manufacture I struggle to like Mercedes. Use to love the older cars which were hand built and many of the 80's designs. Past models can be stunningly beautiful but the modern cars and designs just do nothing for me. My father owned Mercedes cars in the late 90's and just found them poor as a driving experience. Have driven the A45 AMG it also just left me wanting more. The performance was great and also the sound but.....
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
Agree with this totally.I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
Love the RS2 but like yourself the modern cars just miss the spot.
Interiors are always first class.
The original TT was like a car from another World when it came to design but again the modern one just looks boring.
DavidJG said:
Modern generation JLR is one I just wouldn't buy.
Don't like the pointless bling & assorted crap that they seem to think is necessary. A rotary gear selector is fine, but it doesn't need to pop up and sink down all the time. Air vents in the dash that hide away by swivelling to become blank panels...... Yuk!
And Range Rovers are just becoming more vulgar & bling-laden every year...... No thanks.
Just saw a brand new Range Rover Evoque Convertible in white.Don't like the pointless bling & assorted crap that they seem to think is necessary. A rotary gear selector is fine, but it doesn't need to pop up and sink down all the time. Air vents in the dash that hide away by swivelling to become blank panels...... Yuk!
And Range Rovers are just becoming more vulgar & bling-laden every year...... No thanks.
Is this the most pointless car on sale?
Not a brand but a company - I wouldn't entertain the idea of buying anything that General Motors make under their various names. They're always value engineered to be just good enough that they aren't outright appalling, but just s
t enough that they saved every penny. With every new pile of dross they roll out we hear it's nowhere near as crap as the last twenty, but they never fail to disappoint. Their consistent cynical attitude to their customers, creditors, workers, and investors is manifested in every rubbish car they sell.
t enough that they saved every penny. With every new pile of dross they roll out we hear it's nowhere near as crap as the last twenty, but they never fail to disappoint. Their consistent cynical attitude to their customers, creditors, workers, and investors is manifested in every rubbish car they sell.Lester H said:
280E said:
In 36 years of car ownership, I have never had a single Japanese model. I'm sure they're worthily reliable, but just find them as dull as ditchwater.
Oh,they are. Both.
av185 said:
Is there a 'right' place......clearly not. So rear engined is not compromised then...in fact with long established proven advantages for both race and road cars.
Anyway the 991 911 is rear/slightly mid engined with some distribution ahead of the rear wheels giving both rear and mid engine advantages.
I really don't know why people still go on about the Porsche having the engine in the wrong place.Anyway the 991 911 is rear/slightly mid engined with some distribution ahead of the rear wheels giving both rear and mid engine advantages.
The Audi Quattro which was considered ground breaking in the 80's but it had terrible understeer with the placement of the engine.
Even now the RS models are a hit or a miss.
Pretty sad when Porsche can get it right.
simonr100 said:
after seeing adverts on tv where a Volvo was parked and another car reversed into a space next to it, hit the Volvo and damaged itself but no damage to the Volvo.
And then the world discovered crumple zones and realised that putting the whole force of the impact through the human body to show how tough their vehicle was was stupid!Vauxhall is getting plenty stick.
The new Astra seems to be getting a lot of good press.
Any feedback?
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-...
The new Astra seems to be getting a lot of good press.
Any feedback?
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-...
SWoll said:
Can't comment on the Mondeo as it's been a long time since I drove one (impressive to drive, not so much to sit in) but I can assure you that at no point in the life of the Vectra/Insignia has it been a better car than the A4 that was available at the time. I've had the misfortune of driving eac generation as hire cars at some point over the last 15 years and they've all been bloody awful in almost every measurable way.
My Uncle has a GM generation Saab 9-5 saloon which I must say does look passable compared to the Vauxhall Insignia but what a horrible drive.The car is a diesel and sounds like a WW2 tank. Nothing else about the car is positive.
Real shame.
Do people actually think repeatedly referring to Audi as "Aldi" makes them look somehow clever and witty ?
I have visions of those who do so very smugly telling their friends (who probably think they are utter pricks) about this in an Alan-Partridgesque fashion:
"What you've bought an Audi ??!! you mean Aldi !!! HA HA HA Aldi, Audi, you know Audi , sounds a bit like Aldi ....geddit... ??"
TW@T
I have visions of those who do so very smugly telling their friends (who probably think they are utter pricks) about this in an Alan-Partridgesque fashion:
"What you've bought an Audi ??!! you mean Aldi !!! HA HA HA Aldi, Audi, you know Audi , sounds a bit like Aldi ....geddit... ??"
TW@T
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 31st August 13:39
av185 said:
Tragic indeed.
Interesting how someone who has an 'Aldi' on the drive to compare with all the other 'Aldis' on the Barratt estate seriously thinks they've 'made it'.
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The VAG marketing machine in terms of delusion over substance appears to be working well...
Aldi hilarity plus sneering Barratt estate reference = 10/10 for Partidge-esque pomposity Interesting how someone who has an 'Aldi' on the drive to compare with all the other 'Aldis' on the Barratt estate seriously thinks they've 'made it'.
:The VAG marketing machine in terms of delusion over substance appears to be working well...
Good job for you that the horrible VAG marketing machine continues to feed the mouths at Porsche
av185 said:
Never owned a CSL unfortunately....but I have owned most M3s and M5s of which I rate the e46 having one of the last but the build quality is nowhere near the quality of the e36 hence my comment also applying to the e39.
The current run of fugly BMW M cars has lost the plot (ref numerous threads) as many have confirmed and from an enthusiastic driving involvement perspective (is this PH...I sometimes wonder?) these cars are waay too detached (not least down to their farty engines in the M3s case ) and very similar to the Audi RS whatever and C63....soporific and no soul. This is why cars like the GT4 have been so well received and still selling second hand at 50% premium...perfect mix of old school involvement with current 'tech'....but don't take my word for it just refer to this years Ecoty where it beat the GT3 RS and £380k Mclaren.
"Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine"The current run of fugly BMW M cars has lost the plot (ref numerous threads) as many have confirmed and from an enthusiastic driving involvement perspective (is this PH...I sometimes wonder?) these cars are waay too detached (not least down to their farty engines in the M3s case ) and very similar to the Audi RS whatever and C63....soporific and no soul. This is why cars like the GT4 have been so well received and still selling second hand at 50% premium...perfect mix of old school involvement with current 'tech'....but don't take my word for it just refer to this years Ecoty where it beat the GT3 RS and £380k Mclaren.
av185 said:
Wouldn't waste my time either reading or watching any Top Gear drivel.
Try watching Ecoty....it may enlighten you as to the requirements and meaning of driving involvement v driving detachment.
I'm fully cognisant of ECOTY and agree it makes for informative reading and viewing. Try watching Ecoty....it may enlighten you as to the requirements and meaning of driving involvement v driving detachment.
I think the fact that it was an Alan Partridge quote in response to your extolling the virtues of the GT4 was lost on you
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