Alfa Guilia lease costs. You're aavin' a larf, mate.
Discussion
Wills2 said:
They're still laughably rubbish, 7k in on a 4 pot diesel? You can get a 313hp 335d M sport for £449 in and £449 a month.
I tweeted the very same comparison earlier. Alfa will get nowhere like this. Their hands may be tied to an extent, but it's tantamount to being happy with being regarded as an also ran, not a major player.
confused_buyer said:
Of course Alfa could argue they are making a lot more per car so aren't as concerned about volume at this stage.
Agree, but if they're going for yield and not volume, they'll lose the critical mass you get when you start to be seen everywhere.. an acceptable car. If they want to compete, and they said that this was the car to do it, what they seem to be doing is a bit like asking a sprinter to pace himself and take things easy in the first couple of seconds of an Olympic final. I've owned a large number of Lancia and Alfa since the late eighties, I enjoy experiencing the difference that driving an Italian car brings. It's not perfect, but I like that. The adage that you have to have an Alfa though, if you're a real car nut, is pretty modern - I don't remember that in the 70s and 80s.
This is the runaround in the house (below), and I'm looking for something with legs and comfort to go with it. It's fine, but my God, it's tedious in that it lacks character. It's a triumph for the engineers in that you could be in an A3 and not get a totally disconnected experience from that of an A6. So, Audi and the other usual suspects leave me cold, and I was really looking forward to receiving word of these rates.
I'd pay a premium for the fact my car looks good, offers a high sense of ownership pleasure, is interesting and drives well, but pay excessively for the privilege? No way. Hence the thread. I'm a person who would quite happily lease a QV or a very well specced burner, but not at these prices. It's all about supply and demand I suppose.. if they aren't going to import that many, then their price point will be marked accordingly. Maybe the issue is one of import and distrubution, and not residuals and marketing. End result is the same though.
This is the runaround in the house (below), and I'm looking for something with legs and comfort to go with it. It's fine, but my God, it's tedious in that it lacks character. It's a triumph for the engineers in that you could be in an A3 and not get a totally disconnected experience from that of an A6. So, Audi and the other usual suspects leave me cold, and I was really looking forward to receiving word of these rates.
I'd pay a premium for the fact my car looks good, offers a high sense of ownership pleasure, is interesting and drives well, but pay excessively for the privilege? No way. Hence the thread. I'm a person who would quite happily lease a QV or a very well specced burner, but not at these prices. It's all about supply and demand I suppose.. if they aren't going to import that many, then their price point will be marked accordingly. Maybe the issue is one of import and distrubution, and not residuals and marketing. End result is the same though.
Ali_T said:
But, hey, if we hadn't had the more incendiary initial post we couldn't have spent 5 pages saying "told you so" and polishing our crystal balls...
I'm not sure it was incendiary; more, factual and the only information I had to hand when I posted it. I approached AROC twice on social media, to ask about the better prices which *they* (nudge nudge wink wink) alluded to, but was blanked. Clearly, the club echelon goes to the same charm school that the dealers attend, and the reason I'll continue to not join and get my Alfas serviced by independents. Edited by Ali_T on Tuesday 27th September 11:08
Out of interest, shouldn't standardisation of service delivery be ultimately, down to the concessionaire granting the franchise? If a dealer has got foul toilets or lousy service, who is there to objectively scrutinise that? If the basics are so bad, at such a minor level, the problem is probably already unfixable.
I went to my (new at the time) Peterborough Alfa franchise (Donald's, I think) to get the Brera looked at (very minor fault)' serviced and chew over a new buy. The fault was an excuse to see how they operated if I'm honest. I was told to 'wait over there laddie' by someone in the servicing department who then spent a few minutes laughing over some news event with a colleague.
Bored, I ambled into the showroom and asked to sit in the (then, new) 159, which was locked. I approached someone who looked like a salesman and asked if it could be unlocked, to be asked 'Are you looking to buy?'. I wasn't asking for a test drive, just a sit in it, and to be treated in such a monetised way made my mind up for me. I collected the key from the servicing department (still on the counter) and drove off. Never went back.
I went to my (new at the time) Peterborough Alfa franchise (Donald's, I think) to get the Brera looked at (very minor fault)' serviced and chew over a new buy. The fault was an excuse to see how they operated if I'm honest. I was told to 'wait over there laddie' by someone in the servicing department who then spent a few minutes laughing over some news event with a colleague.
Bored, I ambled into the showroom and asked to sit in the (then, new) 159, which was locked. I approached someone who looked like a salesman and asked if it could be unlocked, to be asked 'Are you looking to buy?'. I wasn't asking for a test drive, just a sit in it, and to be treated in such a monetised way made my mind up for me. I collected the key from the servicing department (still on the counter) and drove off. Never went back.
I'd love to see Alfa successful again (I say 'again', when were they ever successful?). Your point about Alfisti - there are some Alfa snobs who almost want to impede brand progress so they can sit in their isolated splendour and luxuriate that only they, the minority, truly 'get it'. I've had it said to me 'we don't want everyone to have one, do we?'.
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