RE: Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

RE: Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

Monday 21st November 2016

Suzuki Swift Sport: PH Fleet

Hang on, wasn't that car blue last month? Matt explains all...



It wasn't me, honest. It wasn't any of us in fact. Heading into PH HQ on the A3, James was driving the blue Swift Sport in stop-start traffic. He had to come to a halt, but the Range Rover behind didn't. Range Rover bumper meets Swift boot and 'our' brand new car - it had 300 miles on it! - had to go back to Suzuki for a repair. Bother.

Three doors or five, it's still brilliant out here
Three doors or five, it's still brilliant out here
Very generously, Suzuki UK did offer us the use of its five-door Sport test car while the three-door was being fixed. The pictures you see here are from when Autocar had the Swift for a comparison with the old Clio 200 Cup and Mugen Civic Type R as the last great naturally aspirated hothatches. Absolutely worthy of inclusion, I would say.

To all intents and purposes bar the obvious addition of doors, the white Swift is identical to the blue Swift - it even weighs the same 1,045kg - so it was no surprise to find it equally likeable. There's some really clever suspension tuning going on in these little Suzukis, with far greater compliance than you may credit a small Japanese car with. It's not at the expense of control either, the balance struck ideal for maintaining speed on a B-road; it absorbs the bumps and it isn't deflected, but neither is it lazily squishing out imperfections and undermining confidence. It's brilliant. The drive back from Lotus for the Evora Sport 410 drive down the B1077 is one I'll remember for a while in the Swift, its compact dimensions, eager nature and well sorted dynamics perfectly suited to the road.

Furthermore, and rather frustratingly, I grew to enjoy the convenience of five doors. See I disagree with Dan on five-door hot hatches, and feel that small ones in particular should be exclusively three-door (primarily on styling grounds), but the Swift might be wearing down my resistance. I still think it's sharper looking as a three-door, but not significantly worse with five, and the ability to just throw things on the back seat (with the intuitive keyless entry, a feature lacking from Dan's £70K Jag) is very useful. If I had enough friends to use those back seats I'm sure they would appreciate not clambering over a folded chair. And the five-door premium is only £500. Hmm...

Blue one is back; white comes recommended too
Blue one is back; white comes recommended too
Soon enough the blue Swift was back in action, ready and raring to have a few more miles put on it. If I'm honest, it's the blue hot hatch on the PH Fleet that I'm rather more excited about driving at the moment. Yet I'm back in the Focus; ungrateful though it probably sounds, that wasn't exactly the plan. See James took the car recently to head back up home to Leicestershire, which meant we could swap cars when he was back in the office. Only trouble being he hasn't been in the office; I'll let him explain that - it's for a very good reason - but hurry up with my car JD! Last I heard it was approaching 1,000 miles, so maybe he's just making sure it's well run in.

When I do finally get the car back, it would be great to see how the Swift fares on track. Goodwood may not be the ideal location for something with 136hp, but then neither is mid-November the best time to be looking for track days! However it works out, hopefully next month I can report on some meaningful, enjoyable and incident free miles in the Swift. I'm really looking forward to it.


FACT SHEET
Car
: Suzuki Swift Sport
Run by: Matt (well, it's meant to be...) 
On fleet since: October 2016
Mileage: 937 (delivered on 300)
List price new: £14,399
Last month at a glance: Biffed by a Range Rover, back in business soon after

Previous updates:
It's the last N/A hot hatch on sale, of course we had to run one!





 


 

 

Photos: Luc Lacey

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Ilovejapcrap

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Thursday 17th November 2016
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I'm in the process of looking for a small car at the moment 13k budget.

With a bit of haggling I can basically get a brand new swift. I've seen some polo gti with the 1.8 with a few miles on more or less in my grip.

But I can't stop looking at the swift, it's not got the badge or perhaps as fancy inside. But it just feels honest as the day is long and sooo simple. Straight petrol manual box.

People keep saying vw has better resale etc, the swift just keeps calling me. Ahh what to do !

Ilovejapcrap

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Thursday 17th November 2016
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Turning Japanese said:
The swift will loose value quickly so why not buy a 3 year old swift that has done most of its depreciating?

I love these cars but I'm strangely drawn to the standard 1.2 swift as it has 95bhp. I'm sorry but I think 95bhp from a 1.2 engine is pretty decent.
Yes it's true will loose some money I have looked at a few 3yr old. Some don't have the garmin nav / phone at that age.

Most needed tyres etc. (I know tyres don't cost 3 grand).

Plus got 3yrs warranty. .

Never thought I'd consider brand new. But on a car like this we are not talking massive figures, and after a recent death of someone at 60 yrs old I could be over halfway through my life already. So I kinda think f it TBH

Ilovejapcrap

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Lunar Tick said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
I'm in the process of looking for a small car at the moment 13k budget.

With a bit of haggling I can basically get a brand new swift. Ahh what to do !
I picked up a 16 plate 5-door Swift Sport for just £10.7K It was first registered in June 2016 and only had 1,105 miles on the clock - so basically brand new! Have good look around - if you're prepared to travel there are some fantastic nearly new bargains out there. Oh, and I LOVE this little car. Although it's a big power drop from my JDM Spec C Impreza, it manages to put a smile on my face, and I don't have to risk losing my licence to do it smile
I want a grey 3dr I can't find any with just 1000 miles on for 11k

Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 19th November 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
I want a grey 3dr I can't find any with just 1000 miles on for 11k
I found a blue and white one, 16 and 65 plate, both less than 5000 miles for less than 11,000

Bargain
I'm getting grey 3dr 8 miles not pre reg , £13,200

Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 19th November 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
I'm getting grey 3dr 8 miles not pre reg , £13,200
Not bad, i would always buy second hand but i suppose it would be nice to own my car from new one day
I'd agree with you diesel but at the sort of figures we are talking in grand scheme of things I thought fk it TBH

Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 19th November 2016
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Sorry to interrupt guys the reason I wanted a swift is simple jap and petrol no turbo no funny electrics etc. I'm expecting it to last a far few year at not much cost, not sure I can say the same about all the low cubic turbo lumps in yrs to come.

Yeah it's a bit slower but N/A is a lot of fun

Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 19th November 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
Sorry to interrupt guys the reason I wanted a swift is simple jap and petrol no turbo no funny electrics etc. I'm expecting it to last a far few year at not much cost, not sure I can say the same about all the low cubic turbo lumps in yrs to come.

Yeah it's a bit slower but N/A is a lot of fun
This is what tempts me aswell, no turbo to go wrong, no dual mass flywheel, no dsg boxes and so forth
Diesel I had every intention of buying a 10 plate civic type r drove about 5 in total but day to day this just made so much sense.

Since purchasing I have found loads of tuning parts can be had if you wish.

I'll let you know my progress, I intend to keep stock until out of warranty out (well most parts) then have a play.

Ilovejapcrap

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Sunday 20th November 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
dieseluser07 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
Sorry to interrupt guys the reason I wanted a swift is simple jap and petrol no turbo no funny electrics etc. I'm expecting it to last a far few year at not much cost, not sure I can say the same about all the low cubic turbo lumps in yrs to come.

Yeah it's a bit slower but N/A is a lot of fun
This is what tempts me aswell, no turbo to go wrong, no dual mass flywheel, no dsg boxes and so forth
Diesel I had every intention of buying a 10 plate civic type r drove about 5 in total but day to day this just made so much sense.

Since purchasing I have found loads of tuning parts can be had if you wish.

I'll let you know my progress, I intend to keep stock until out of warranty out (well most parts) then have a play.
Does the swift feel loads slower than the civic?

If i got one id want to somehow make it look a bit more fierce, and improve the engine note with an induction kit and a good backbox.
Hum no not loads but that's probs because it's a small car so the sense of speed is more than say a well insulated Audi.

It clearly is a slower car, I looked at the fn2 civics, almost all had slight bubbling between windscreen and top of roof, the rubber seal rubs and causes rot. Nothing major but I was looking at spending say 9 grand on one and I'm not having that, also very few have nav cruise, Bluetooth etc. The swift has all that and you can have reversing sensors fitted if you want.

They do look nice with a bit of a lower and a different exhaust, I'd just be concerned about turning it into a chav car rather than a small fun slight power superminis which is what it is.

Reading people's reviews, I'm expecting 40 mpg on a long run, something I don't think you'd get with the civic, and was almost what I got from my 1.9tdi A3 real world.

Another contender for me was the ds3 however the loan Citroen I have has already had some issues whilst I've Been using it, put me off TBH.



https://youtu.be/CR37RcEHWVQ


https://youtu.be/CKxVBSHWXEw





Watch some vids of them at Nurburgring, yes not super quick but look great fun.

Edited by Ilovejapcrap on Sunday 20th November 12:52

Ilovejapcrap

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Monday 21st November 2016
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Well I picked it up today.........

Pics to follow

Ilovejapcrap

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Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Zajda said:
Congrats, you are about to have a loads of fun clap Curious how you find the throttle reaction to blipping in various situations and falling down of the revs during upshifts. Also I would like to point out that the factory fill is 0W-20, so for tracking or wringing the heck out of it for prolonged time i would opt for thicker grade next change. Curiously enough even API SG class is allowable to use.
I've read of revs hanging on a swift sport forum but not noticed it. Apparently a remap gets rid and gives almost 150 bhp.

I don't have a great understanding of the oils, should I not keep to what Suzuki put in it ?

Ilovejapcrap

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Friday 3rd March 2017
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SE2 said:
I'm collecting a blue 5-Door on Monday morning. It's not a car I thought about, but when it showed up locally on AT, it made perfect sense. 63-reg, January 2014 car. I was looking to change in late '18 and would've gone for a Tangerine Scream Focus ST, but my Astra Coupe is so long in the tooth I didn't want to put more money into it.

I've never owned a car so universally praised and the status of last naturally aspirated pocket rocket makes it that much more special than yet another turbo car. I didn't explore the rev range or the handling, but it felt like a sweet drive and got up a long uphill slip road well enough. I'll give it the berries on Monday for sure.
Nice one se2 picture when you get it.

This is mine

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=163...