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Ok - so there is a thread about badly modified cars but what some people see as bad others see as good (but can at least accept that its not to everyone's taste) but i think there should be this thread that captures all varieties of modified cars from a "scene" perspective...
Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
i put forward this vid to start things off....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhdIQGjGVU
some may call this VIP style - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIP_style
Its not meant to create arguments but awareness....
Lets see how we go
JJ
Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
i put forward this vid to start things off....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhdIQGjGVU
some may call this VIP style - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIP_style
Its not meant to create arguments but awareness....
Lets see how we go
JJ
Rat look......
The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
Mr2Mike said:
Personally I don't see the point in making a car look crap or making it so impractical that is basically useless if there are no actual benefits. These 'scenes' tend to be dominated by a weird sheep like mentality as well, where everyone does the exact same things to their car because they want it to be different or stand out. Modifications to actually improve aspects of a car (performance, handling, brakes etc.) I totally understand.
So like taking a 911 and turning it into a GT3RS?the whole thing about modding is totally anti-sheep no? its all about a reflection or personality is a car?
Sheep is...
haha!!
but i'm pretty sure the ACE Cafe history wasn't built on OEM bikes and cars
JJ
why is it unroadworthy though??
many of these cars are immaculate underneath - and very well maintained.
enthusiasts know their cars inside out but your bog standard BMW diesel estate owner may know zero about whats going on and be totally unaware of their vehicles roadworthiness.
when my E60 dpf was playing up, most owners just said "gut and map" or "pay £1500" but i spent weeks looking into the issue, understanding all the parameters needed for regen, created some fixes and managed to force regens until the system was clear and now regens fine.
i'm sure the cafe racers of the 50s had their elders shouting at them for ruining perfectly good bikes but i honestly can't see an issue with working on cars and being "creative" in whatever "scene"
as you say, personal taste is exactly that but we can only criticise if we know all the details - hence this thread
not sure i get the picasso posts though!!
JJ
many of these cars are immaculate underneath - and very well maintained.
enthusiasts know their cars inside out but your bog standard BMW diesel estate owner may know zero about whats going on and be totally unaware of their vehicles roadworthiness.
when my E60 dpf was playing up, most owners just said "gut and map" or "pay £1500" but i spent weeks looking into the issue, understanding all the parameters needed for regen, created some fixes and managed to force regens until the system was clear and now regens fine.
i'm sure the cafe racers of the 50s had their elders shouting at them for ruining perfectly good bikes but i honestly can't see an issue with working on cars and being "creative" in whatever "scene"
as you say, personal taste is exactly that but we can only criticise if we know all the details - hence this thread
not sure i get the picasso posts though!!
JJ
problemchild1976 said:
....i think there should be this thread that captures all varieties of modified cars from a "scene" perspective...
Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
yeah but the picasso isn't modified...... is it?Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
no I don't know who ronnie pickering is (thats a joke obvs)
JJ
Mr2Mike said:
problemchild1976 said:
So like taking a 911 and turning it into a GT3RS?
Not like that at all. The car still remains perfectly functional and looks great. It would be like taking a 911 and 'stancing' it (such a cretinous term) with stupid camber and a fag papers worth of ground clearance, making it undriveable on many roads.problemchild1976 said:
the whole thing about modding is totally anti-sheep no? its all about a reflection or personality is a car?
Rusty or black bonnets on VWsRusty old roofracks piled high with s
t (mostly seen on VWs)Stupidly stretched tyres (mostly seen on VWs..a theme developing)
Stupid amounts of lowering and negative camber (VW's again...)
All done to make their car stand out, even though it now looks exactly like all the other modified VWs. Sheep.
the polo posted is more functional than a GT3RS
so i'm sensing as long as its been modified by a factory its ok? no matter how impractical?
where does BRABUS or Alpina fit in?? or any supercar that is a nats whisker off the ground?
people's opinions are all v confusing
hating a look is ok - we aren't all the same
but stating those things isn't sheep-like.... every roof rack has the owners personality in there. Adding ceramic brake options from the factory is ok?
the VW scene is identified by these things but isn't limited to them (like the garlands on the RVM)
i don't and wont own VW or a 911 as i prefer something a bit rarer but i can appreciate scenes (no matter how crap) and the effort people put in and understanding where it came from - i find it all v interesting.
(like the VIP look coming from the undergroud gansters of Japan)
JJ
JJ
no chip more of a jacket potato kinda guy
just don't see how someone can say something is impractical and unroadworthy without ever having a look at something....
rat is not my thing at all.... but i'd not comment on something like its mechanicals without seeing it.
i find it amusing how making panels different colours is making something impractical but taking out seats, adding a roll cage and stiffening suspension for the track isn't
i see it as snobbery tbh and looking down on people
this is supposed to be a thread about explaining styles and modding BUT all people want to do is burn that which they do not know.
i could go to any dealer and buy their fastest car but where's the fun and joy in that? what may cost £100k can be beaten by £20k any day of the week and you can have a hell of a lot of fun getting there, learning and then beating said £100k car.
or if i only had £5k i could go buy a dacia or i could go buy a £2k shed and make it my own, again learning so much on the way and having a reflection of myself.
modding is a fun hobby and teaches you a skill. nowadays an oil change is seen as something mystical and paying £200 for £30 oil and a £20 filter is accepted as the norm
some people drink and smoke which is a waste of money, time and health but its not for the world to chastise
anyway.... its about learning not berating so lets see some more "non picasso" cars
JJ
more of a jacket potato kinda guyjust don't see how someone can say something is impractical and unroadworthy without ever having a look at something....
rat is not my thing at all.... but i'd not comment on something like its mechanicals without seeing it.
i find it amusing how making panels different colours is making something impractical but taking out seats, adding a roll cage and stiffening suspension for the track isn't
i see it as snobbery tbh and looking down on people
this is supposed to be a thread about explaining styles and modding BUT all people want to do is burn that which they do not know.
i could go to any dealer and buy their fastest car but where's the fun and joy in that? what may cost £100k can be beaten by £20k any day of the week and you can have a hell of a lot of fun getting there, learning and then beating said £100k car.
or if i only had £5k i could go buy a dacia or i could go buy a £2k shed and make it my own, again learning so much on the way and having a reflection of myself.
modding is a fun hobby and teaches you a skill. nowadays an oil change is seen as something mystical and paying £200 for £30 oil and a £20 filter is accepted as the norm
some people drink and smoke which is a waste of money, time and health but its not for the world to chastise
anyway.... its about learning not berating so lets see some more "non picasso" cars
JJ
problemchild1976 said:
Ok - so there is a thread about badly modified cars but what some people see as bad others see as good (but can at least accept that its not to everyone's taste) but i think there should be this thread that captures all varieties of modified cars from a "scene" perspective...
Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
i think my #1 intro post was pretty clearPics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
so whats in the heads of someone who goes into a dealership and pays £100k for an i8?
JJ
Mr2Mike said:
problemchild1976 said:
no chip more of a jacket potato kinda guy
just don't see how someone can say something is impractical and unroadworthy without ever having a look at something....
Who is saying unroadworthy? Impractical yes, any car that can't navigate a speed bump or dropped kerb is impractical (and that would include a factory made car). The word I used is sheep, doing the exact same mods that everyone else in the "scene" does because you are somehow compelled to follow. It's like the Borg collective, not an individual thought among them. more of a jacket potato kinda guyjust don't see how someone can say something is impractical and unroadworthy without ever having a look at something....
loose cannon said:
Piece of unroadworthy crap ... it's a piece of junk and a awful looking piece of junk it is to, only a 17 year old scene slag could love that heap
i wasn't saying the gas monkey truck was rat look (although it is a nod to it) i was giving an example of something this is rough looking on the outside but you can eat your dinner off the running gear.JJ
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