Single justice procedure notice for parked car sorn
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Last year had a 2005 astra that was always giving me issues. Eventually had enough sorned it and parked it off road on my drive
Moved houses in December. Had to get rid of the astra, managed to sell it honestly and got transferred the money and have a hand written receipt. Sold it on the 5th of December and sent off v5 by post.
New keeper didn't change the sorn status and parked it on the road. A camera van took a picture of it on the 20th of December and I was issued a fine for the offence of unlicensed keeping or using of a motor vehicle GF55 XXX. I received the fine in february to my old address as an out of court settlement. I collected my letters from the old address end of February as I don't go back to the area I moved roughly 40 miles away. By the time I got the letter it was too late, the letter was over 14 days old and was processing to become a single justice procedure notice. I have then received a letter from DVLA claiming someone is trying to take ownership of GF55 XXX but they didn't get anything from me so I filled it in with the details of who I sold the car to and the date of sale and sent it back. I then got a single justice procedure notice on the 13th of March giving me 21 days to plead guilty, plead guilty and represent my defence in court, or not guilty. I checked online last logbook has been issued on the 14th of march.
It's been a hectic end of the year and start of 2024 I've moved houses, trained to become a driving instructor and I'm now a pdi, and been working 2 jobs to cover my living costs and training in that time. I'm now worried I'm going to convicted of an offense I didn't commit and will get a criminal record and potentially lose my job that I worked hard to get. I've never ever been done for anything in the 10 years I've been driving, only some parking tickets over the years, not even a driver awareness course or anything like that. It looks like I will have to go court but do I plead guilty and defend myself in court or not guilty and go to court. I've been stressed by this situation I have no idea what to do 😔
Moved houses in December. Had to get rid of the astra, managed to sell it honestly and got transferred the money and have a hand written receipt. Sold it on the 5th of December and sent off v5 by post.
New keeper didn't change the sorn status and parked it on the road. A camera van took a picture of it on the 20th of December and I was issued a fine for the offence of unlicensed keeping or using of a motor vehicle GF55 XXX. I received the fine in february to my old address as an out of court settlement. I collected my letters from the old address end of February as I don't go back to the area I moved roughly 40 miles away. By the time I got the letter it was too late, the letter was over 14 days old and was processing to become a single justice procedure notice. I have then received a letter from DVLA claiming someone is trying to take ownership of GF55 XXX but they didn't get anything from me so I filled it in with the details of who I sold the car to and the date of sale and sent it back. I then got a single justice procedure notice on the 13th of March giving me 21 days to plead guilty, plead guilty and represent my defence in court, or not guilty. I checked online last logbook has been issued on the 14th of march.
It's been a hectic end of the year and start of 2024 I've moved houses, trained to become a driving instructor and I'm now a pdi, and been working 2 jobs to cover my living costs and training in that time. I'm now worried I'm going to convicted of an offense I didn't commit and will get a criminal record and potentially lose my job that I worked hard to get. I've never ever been done for anything in the 10 years I've been driving, only some parking tickets over the years, not even a driver awareness course or anything like that. It looks like I will have to go court but do I plead guilty and defend myself in court or not guilty and go to court. I've been stressed by this situation I have no idea what to do 😔
Mandat said:
LunarOne said:
I'm not a lawyer, but If you have proof of when you sold the car, just plead not guilty and provide that proof as evidence. You cannot be guilty of the offence if you were not the keeper at the time of the offence, which your evidence ought to prove. I wouldn't be worrying unduly.
The problem is that the OP was not the owner but still the RK at the time of offence.The change of RK is documented as being on 14 March, which is well after the offence was committed.
but I do want to fight this in court the systems have done their jobs but my circumstances were a bit unfortunate and I wasn't the one that parked the car of had control over the car at that timeDKS said:
No help now, but from now on change the V5 online with new owner present. Takes seconds on a phone. There's no reason to leave yourself open to this hassle doing it by post.
Do you have a receipt for when you sold it? Or a copy of a bank statement showing the money from the sale going into your account?
Would this count as a criminal offence?
I got a bank statement showing payment for the car with reference of the reg. In all honesty I'm more than happy to pay the 450 odd pound fine and 85 surcharge whatever else they charge but I do not want a criminal record at all no matter whatDo you have a receipt for when you sold it? Or a copy of a bank statement showing the money from the sale going into your account?
Would this count as a criminal offence?
DKS said:
No help now, but from now on change the V5 online with new owner present. Takes seconds on a phone. There's no reason to leave yourself open to this hassle doing it by post.
Do you have a receipt for when you sold it? Or a copy of a bank statement showing the money from the sale going into your account?
Would this count as a criminal offence?
I got a bank statement showing payment for the car with reference of the reg. In all honesty I'm more than happy to pay the 450 odd pound fine and 85 surcharge whatever else they charge but I do not want a criminal record at all no matter whatDo you have a receipt for when you sold it? Or a copy of a bank statement showing the money from the sale going into your account?
Would this count as a criminal offence?
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