RE: Gatso 2 arrives

Wednesday 16th November 2005

Gatso 2 arrives

Pervasive surveillance imminent as national database fires up to watch us all


ANPR camera: they're watching us
ANPR camera: they're watching us
Think that automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) is only there to catch the guilty, the uninsured, the tax dodger? Think again.

Britain's top traffic cop has plans for a national surveillance network of cameras that will track every car, everywhere. According to an article in the Sunday Times and analysed in The Register, Meredydd Hughes wants the cameras installed every 400 yards on motorways, as well as at supermarkets, petrol stations and in town centres.

The unobtrusive, dull-looking and small cameras will be installed as a trial on the M42 to enforce variable speed limits, after which the plan is that they'll be installed every 400 yards along every motorway. Data from the cameras will be collated nationally with the aim of tracking every car, information that will be stored for two years, whether you're guilty or not.

It'll be managed from a new control centre in Hendon, in north London, from where as many as 50 million number plates will be processed daily. And it's not some far-off dream either: it's planned to be in place by the end of 2006.

The system is going ahead under the pretence that it's just about checking tax and insurance. But as some observers have already noted, checking every vehicle's tax and insurance details every 15 seconds is massive overkill. Unless of course, it's also planned that the system could make Gatsos obsolete and act as speed cameras too -- which ties into the Government's idea of enforcing speed limits rigidly, as we reported yesterday (see link below).

The database is already being built, without any form of Parliamentary approval process having been undertaken, and it promises to be one of the most pervasive surveillance systems on the planet.

Still think we live in a free society where the right to do what you please and go where you please without state interference is among the most basic rights in our (unwritten) constitution? Not for much longer...

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GTRene

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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Were are we going to in this world? when they only use it to look at if you paid tax or insurence or wrong numberplates, I say oké...but most of the other things NO and I gues when they go ahead with that plan then even the English people wil not take this crap anny longer, and the motorist will unite! and you wil see what will happen then! You have to make the world a better place to live! and not more stressy! whit all those rules you kill fun and relaxt moments! so its getting harder for people to relax so you get more "sick" stresd people on the road, thrust me you don't realy want that....

René

GTRene

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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Ribol said:
bunglist said:
When will people learn that Labour shafted the country last time they were in power, oh look whats happening now, they are doing it again.

Just think, we have got at least another 4 years of this Shite!!!!!!!

The funny thing is, you didn't vote them in, I didn't vote them in, nobody I speak to voted them in.........................................................so who the f**k voted them in?


They did themselves I think
They can get away with that because they are the law
They make there own rules, not choosen by us! at least not the most of us!
We need the law(sadly to many rules though!) but not this cr*p
My vote is...I vote them away! and put all those people on, lets say Antartica(in the freezer)

GTRene

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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Maybe in the east of Belgium is a place to life, I've looked at the place Büllingen(east Belgium), its nearby(44mile from!) the "Ring" Nürnbeurgring Germany and also just about 25 mile from Spa Francorchamps! Belgium, so you can do trackdays and race at Spa, and drive high speeds on some motorways in Germany and ofcorse on the lovely Ring(Nordschleiffe) Germany
And most of the people in Belgium are nice I think, I'm living in the Netherlands, and there is also a big hunt on cars and all the money they could take from that by tax and special cartax(BPM) and high gassoline prices ect ect and many camera's, we are not free anymore and way to many rules! but we got nothing in return!
I''m also thinking of moving to another country, problem is, most other country's are getting more rules too...where can we go, and life more free like live was about 25 years? ago....no camera's and no speedlimit, but good old sence and understanding.

René

>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 17th November 10:48

GTRene

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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There will always be someone who can hack those things? because those are linked by computers...
But I still hope the goverment? use their heads and listen to the people and take more action to other things then cars...

GTRene

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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Sgt^Roc said:
cotty said:
[quote=roy c]Coming soon: GATSO-3 "Polling Booth Cam"


Followed by GATSO-4 "parent and child parking cam"



The man who created Gatso scamera's ( a dutch man! but I'm not proud of that!) is long dead, sadly his work not...

Annyway, I've got lasergund last month doing 255km/u on a straight empty road(highway) in the night at 3am...at least 4 months no drivers lisence? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh and 3 weeks no car(I've got my car back)
so my worry was no Mr Gatso...in these times they lasergun you