along the "brand snobbery" line....

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would you avoid buying a car with a chavy reputation if it was something that suited your needs?

or would you look elsewhere?

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briSk said:

you're thinking about a rally weapon aren;t you?!

yes was looking at Version 1-6 Imprezas or even a Version 7

have looked at loads of bdised and chaved up ones on Autotrader and tbh it has pretty much put me off ...

...in a "I don't want to be a part of that" kind of way

to top it off, on Sunday was out for a bit of a run in my T5 and came across a Version 7 Impreza, it was Blue with bright yellow 555 and Subaru rally stickers all over it and bright Yellow extended mudflaps...I just thought "what a COCK"

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kambites said:

y2blade said:

would you avoid buying a car with a chavy reputation if it was something that suited your needs?

or would you look elsewhere?

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

ETA: However having to put up with the attention associated with is, is definitely something that I would take into account.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 2nd February 10:25

that is the thing!

it is the opposite with my current car

you just pass by without anyone really batting an eyelid, people let you out of junctions and move-over on the motorway, it doesn't draw any unwanted attention when parked up or when driven at a fair rate of knots for that matter

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Smiler. said:

y2blade said:

briSk said:

you're thinking about a rally weapon aren;t you?!

yes was looking at Version 1-6 Imprezas or even a Version 7

have looked at loads of bdised and chaved up ones on Autotrader and tbh it has pretty much put me off ...

...in a "I don't want to be a part of that" kind of way

to top it off, on Sunday was out for a bit of a run in my T5 and came across a Version 7 Impreza, it was Blue with bright yellow 555 and Subaru rally stickers all over it and bright Yellow extended mudflaps...I just thought "what a COCK"

I reckon I saw that the other day parked across the entrance to the office park. I did think "attention we", but I also thought it looked quite good ("car-smut" alert).

How was it being driven (or was it similarly parked)?

it was being driven like the proverbial ......

as are most the Imprezas I've seen on the road come to mention it

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 10:51

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gazchap said:

If you're thinking of a rally weapon but want something a bit different that doesn't seem to attract such a "chavvy" reputation, why not take a look at a Celica GT-Four? The later model, the ST205, is shockingly cheap to buy now and as long as all of the main failure points have been sorted they're a good buy and should go for a long time to come.

Mine hasn't been modified much, the last person to own it in Japan fitted a performance exhaust to it which is louder than some but not overly loud (only 87db static) and it's enormous fun to drive. None of the "chav brigade" really seem to know what it is either which is a bonus, and I hardly ever see another one around so rarity is a factor.

I'm not necessarily after a "rally weapon" just a AWD car that goes well

have been looking out for Celica GT-Fours but the old ones (not round headlight) are pretty few and far between

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 10:55

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Agoogy said:

Integrale!

I want something that will start every time I turn the key

but thanks


I'm thinking understated now anyway

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 11:00

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Roman said:

I think I'd rather have a Legacy, Mazda MP6 or even CX-7.

S60R is favourite tbh

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Roman said:

y2blade said:

Roman said:

I think I'd rather have a Legacy, Mazda MP6 or even CX-7.

S60R is favourite tbh

Don't think there is anything wrong with that myself!

me neither but it isnt very "PH" is it

I love my current car but really need AWD
The "brand" has always been very good to me and I love the understated image and fairly brisk Turbo 5cyl engine (esp after a MTE re-map)

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 12:31

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Gaz. said:

y2blade said:

would you avoid buying a car with a chavy reputation if it was something that suited your needs?

or would you look elsewhere?

I haven't yet, with 8 out of 10 of mine being associated with chavs of some description. The biggest drawback imo is when you come to sell your P&J, with the rudest, most arrogant and just downright cheeky scum calling you at all times of day & night. Selling my Porsche was an absolute pleasure, everyone had manners, decorum & social etiquette, it was 100% opposite of my experience selling the Supra which was a deeply unpleasant experience, which had tainted my private sale experience so badly I was vomiting with anxiety waiting for the first viewer for the 944 (I needn't have worried, he was an absolute gentleman).

They are harder to price too, if an ASBO orange Supra 3.0 with a mismatched bodykit, 19 inch chromes, a broken gearbox and a half finished turbo conversion of unknown origin and had also been in two large smacks but sells within a day of the advert going live for £3500 you'd think a clean straight & cherished TT with immaculate bodywork, interior and mechanicals would have sold on the first phonecall at £5k. Though I've picked out two specific examples the trend was for battered barrywagons to sell quicker and for almost the same money as several cherished examples. Dodgy mods & neglect didn't seem to matter to these people (well, until they realise they need to spend thousands to fix them up).

I think I'll stick with Volvo

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Mr Darcy said:

I bought my scooby and was laughed at by my neighbours. They actually said and I kid you not that I was lowering the tone of the neighbour hood! Couldn't care less to be honest, a car is a car at the end of the day and it can not be held responsible for those that own it.

any pics?

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EDLT said:

One thing that puts me off Evos/Imprezas is that they are popular with tea-leafs.

It is not just tea-leafs.....
have a look at some of the adverts for a while

What sort of person calls a car a "Scooby-doo" or "Subaru-Doo" (yes really) or even "Scooby" in the advert title...you then go on to read the advert, it generally says "I luv my scooby it iz da sh-t and well wikkid fast with skidz sellin coz I run out ov dollar and me bh iz up da duff"




....next!!!!!

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 13:44

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300bhp/ton said:

motoroller said:

Most cars (completely stock) are fine. If it came with any of the following, I wouldn't buy it.

LED washer jets
Loud exhaust
Wheels that are more than 4" bigger than stock
Any form of vinyl stickers
Aftermarket bodykit / spoiler

Those are all fairly bad signs - the car will look stupid and most likely be thrashed.

Not sure I follow that. My car has a loud exhaust and a front rally like spoiler and wheels substantially bigger than stock. But I can't see how it's chavy at all.

pictures?

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300bhp/ton said:

y2blade said:

briSk said:

you're thinking about a rally weapon aren;t you?!

yes was looking at Version 1-6 Imprezas or even a Version 7

have looked at loads of bdised and chaved up ones on Autotrader and tbh it has pretty much put me off ...

...in a "I don't want to be a part of that" kind of way

to top it off, on Sunday was out for a bit of a run in my T5 and came across a Version 7 Impreza, it was Blue with bright yellow 555 and Subaru rally stickers all over it and bright Yellow extended mudflaps...I just thought "what a COCK"

Hows a rally car chavvy or making someone a cock?

is this also chavvy

the car in question was NOT a rally car


I can't see the picture from work..so can't comment is it yours? will see it later from home

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 14:01

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300bhp/ton said:

y2blade said:

300bhp/ton said:

motoroller said:

Most cars (completely stock) are fine. If it came with any of the following, I wouldn't buy it.

LED washer jets
Loud exhaust
Wheels that are more than 4" bigger than stock
Any form of vinyl stickers
Aftermarket bodykit / spoiler

Those are all fairly bad signs - the car will look stupid and most likely be thrashed.

Not sure I follow that. My car has a loud exhaust and a front rally like spoiler and wheels substantially bigger than stock. But I can't see how it's chavy at all.

pictures?

no that is not "chavy"

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the Lotus Cortina has given me a hard-on
I have spent many a day watching them sideways around most the circuits in the UK usually with a classic yank muscle car bullying them on the straights only for them to pass again on each corner with a front wheel off the deck and sideways

ditto the Mk1 Mexico




yeah I see what you are saying, the Version 7 Impreza wagon looks pretty Ordinary

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 2nd February 19:48

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Rawwr said:

You ride a Fireblade! You can't seriously be worried about looking like a chav?

chavs ride GSXRs and R6/R1s


hth

Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 3rd February 10:26

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GravelBen said:

Papa Hotel said:

there are thousands of alternatives to the 2 rally reps that are as much fun to drive, better equipped, more comfortable, cheaper to buy, insure and fuel and better screwed together.

Like what?

must be AWD
must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable


I'm all ears

Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 3rd February 10:26

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GravelBen said:

Rawwr said:

y2blade said:

must be AWD
must have more than 200bhp as standard
must be reliable

R32? I mean, they're as dull as blankets and driving one feels akin to gently sliding into a coma but it fits the criteria.

The criteria included 'as much fun to drive' as a rally-rep. And cheaper to buy as well as better screwed together, which given the mixed reports you hear about VW these days days probably isn't a given.

thanks for the suggestion

I can have fun in pretty much anything

S60R is what I'm looking for right now, I love my turbo Volvos

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GravelBen said:

What I've heard about the S60R is that its fast enough and competent enough, but certainly not a car described in any way as 'involving'.

Personally if you want something with rally-rep performance and handling, but more comfort and a more grown-up/subtle feel then I'd suggest taking a good look at a Legacy - either the 280bhp GTB (would be an import for you) or the 240bhp 3.0R Spec B.

thanks for the suggestion (a guy along from me has a new'ish diesel legacy, very nice inside, very comfy)


see above..I don't care about trackday handling

I can hustle my 850 T5 along fairly well

Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 3rd February 11:01

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GravelBen said:

y2blade said:

see above..I don't care about trackday handling

I'm talking about road handling, for trackdays I use the MX5!

If Volvos are your thing (like Subarus for me ) then fair play to you and have fun, but I'd still suggest at least driving a Legacy for the sake of comparison.

I will do mate, my neighbour has offered me a drive of his new shape Legacy Diesel boxer .... it is a lovely looking car and as I already said I have sat in it and had a look around inside, it is very nice indeed