Department for Transport says 4x4’s are safest – fact!
Discussion
The Crack Fox said:
Defender on the Motorway ? I suspect, as usual, you're in a tiny minority there 
You asked, I answered. Seeing a Defender on the road, be it m-way or dual carriage way major A road is not uncommon. Sure, you don't see 100's in a single journey, but that's more the fact they don't sell 100,000 of them a year.If you don't see any, maybe the phrase "should have gone to spec savers" would seem appropriate.
The Crack Fox said:
Looking at the list, there are 'lifestyle' boxes galore on that list
Meaning what?And to be fair, reading your comment between the lines - wtf?? I suspect most are used as family vehicles, the Defender really is the most odd ball out of the 4x4's, but a Disco certainly isn't.
The Crack Fox said:
, if the stats are based on insurance claims then I bet they're all the most likely vehicles to be scuffed in a carpark (and therefore unlikely to injure the driver).
A Defender 90 is about the same length as a Pug 106, but much easier to park due to being able to see all the corners very easily. And any scuff in a car park is unlikely to even leave a mark, let alone the need of an insurance claim 
Besides, don't be a prat and shoot the messenger, if you have an issue with the data gathering and presentation - well it's pretty simple.
Speak to the DfT!!!!
cptsideways said:
Young drivers rarely have one as they're first car, statistics are rather crap at showing that!
I had a 300Tdi D90 as my first vehicle at 17, know of a lot of others who've had Landy's as a first cars too.
And to be fair, for this logic to stand up, you'd expect supercars and top spec luxo barges to also dominate the list.
Don't know of many 17 years olds driving a new Porsche 911 or Mercedes S class.
ZesPak said:
300bhp/ton said:
cptsideways said:
Young drivers rarely have one as they're first car, statistics are rather crap at showing that!
I had a 300Tdi D90 as my first vehicle at 17, know of a lot of others who've had Landy's as a first cars too.
And to be fair, for this logic to stand up, you'd expect supercars and top spec luxo barges to also dominate the list.
Don't know of many 17 years olds driving a new Porsche 911 or Mercedes S class.
aka_kerrly said:
Am i being dim, how are these stats caculated? Is there any consideration for the number of those vehicles on the road relative to the number of those involved in crashes?
Is the purely suggesting that after looking at a load of crash data and insurance claims that a big 2T 4x4 vs a small 1T car the 4x4 is the saver place to be for its passengers but those of the smaller car are at a far higher risk not because their car is at fault its just being wiped out by something twice its size.
I have no idea how the stats are calculated - ask the Department of Transport!!Is the purely suggesting that after looking at a load of crash data and insurance claims that a big 2T 4x4 vs a small 1T car the 4x4 is the saver place to be for its passengers but those of the smaller car are at a far higher risk not because their car is at fault its just being wiped out by something twice its size.
And as far as I can tell, this article doesn't once mention insurance claims.
What it does highlight, is there has been research of some significant level by a government agency, that one, would presume due to the verdict not tallying with what they wanted, hasn't been fully publicised as per many other similar natured works.
I too would be very interested in how this information was gathered and generated.
Maybe one of the PH bods (Paul, Chris....) would be able to dig up some more information, or even the original report containing all pertinent information.
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