ABS warning light assistance

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We have an '06 Yaris that has an ABS warning light (and a brake light) on and aren't in a position to get to a garage with ease.

The car has recently done about 500 miles in one stretch in the freezing temperatures and until it was left alone (in temps down to -21), the ABS warning light hasn't been seen before.

Could this have anything to do with the cold and is there anything we can do to to 'reset' the ABS system? The car's only done 15,000 and was serviced 4 months ago.

Thanks

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Thanks all.

No, this isn't after a particular wheel spinning (although it has happened recently in the ice/snow) and the car has been restarted a number of times since the light's been on.

It has been through a very tough time recently, so hopefully it could be the sensors. As for cleaning them, is this something that I can get to and do?

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thinfourth2 said:

And a brake light???

Do you mean that a brake light on the back of the car is on?

Do all the brake lights light up when you push the brake pedal?

brake warning light on the dash.

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thinfourth2 said:

Got enough brake fluid?

yep

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southpaw said:

This may help? http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...

Oh joy!

The thing's had 8 recalls already.

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To close this off, the fault was that both ABS sensors inside the rear wheels had stopped functioning and both wiring looms to the sensors were decaying.

2 x ABS sensors, 2 x ABS wiring looms, 2 hours fit, 1 hour investigation = £670.

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I've spoken to Toyota about this. As we're the original owner and it has a full service history they're going to see if they can do something under goodwill.

4 years old and 17,000 miles... it doesn't go along with the "legendary reliability" they like to portray.

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Yep, we had that conversation too.

The service manager thought it was quite normal, so I've taken it up with Toyota.

The car's never had anything like an accident / damage in that area (and has been with us since new)

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Kawasicki said:

I've worked on ABS system development and, as another poster commented, the chances that both rear axle ABS sensors and both wiring looms have failed is very, very low. And the money you have been asked to pay is a complete rip-off!

I agree, but I saw the diag print out and the prices are from a menu (and a fairly standard hourly ££ for London).

My grievance is simply that it should go at all on such a new & low mileage car. The service manager saying how normal it is for these to go and how many he changes doesn't make it alright.

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Reply from Toyota: basically "tough st". They'll make a (very) minor contribution under goodwill, but the car is over 4 years old so it's not their problem.

Whilst they're correct, this isn't exactly reinforcing the perception pushed of Toyota having legendary build quality or excellent customer service.

When I think of the Civic I had prior.. never a sniff of a problem, recall, or reason to contact customer relations. Think it's safe to say I'll be avoiding Toyota in the future.